You Won’t Believe My Morning

You won’t believe my morning.

I went out on my daily excursion to sit on the front step of my building for ten minutes holding my breath when people walked by. Normally, I spend the time diddling around my phone, but I forgot to bring my phone this morning, so I just looked around.

As I was taking in the emptiness of the street, a little glint caught my eye in a patch of dirt on the sidewalk. I bent over to look closer, and there was the glint again. It wasn’t a normal glint like from a shiny rock or a piece of metal—it was a little pinprick of flashing light.

Intrigued, I was now on all fours looking closer. And I saw the most surreal thing.

Tiny houses.

Like tiny houses. Each about a millimeter high, like ornately carved grains of sand.

I was either dreaming or looking at the coolest, cutest little art project ever.

As I examined the microscopic village, I noticed what looked like a scrawl of teeny letters on the dirt next to the houses. It said:

PUT YOUR THUMB ON THE OVAL

Now fully having the time of my life, I looked around for an oval. I searched for a few minutes with no luck until I saw, a bit outside the area where the houses were, a little strip of silver, maybe two millimeters long and a millimeter wide. Careful not to damage the houses, I put my thumb on it.

I won’t be able to accurately describe what happened next, but I’ll try my best. Imagine if the ground underneath you suddenly felt like a furiously spinning liquid whirlpool, combined with the feeling of freefalling, combined with your entire visual field turning into a blurry gray, combined with the worst nausea of your life.

And then, just as fast as it started, it all stopped. I cowered for a few seconds trying to catch my breath, and when I opened my eyes, I wasn’t in New York anymore.

I was on a pastoral ranch, surrounded by big log cabins and a bunch of people staring down at me as I looked up at them, still on all fours. One of the people said to me, “Are you okay?”

“I feel okay, but I’m having severe hallucinations.”

They all started cheering and hugging and high-fiving each other.

“Are you doctors?” I asked.

“He thinks he has the virus,” one of them said, and they all roared with laughter.

A woman shushed the crowd and said, “Okay, back to work everyone. I’ll give him the briefing.”

The others left, and the woman smiled at me. “I’m Layla.”

“Hi Layla. Do I have coronavirus?” I asked.

“You don’t have coronavirus,” she said. “You’re just tiny. We shrunk you to 1/10,000th of your normal size. You haven’t moved anywhere, you’ve just gotten much smaller.”

“Fuck,” I explained.

“Yeah, I imagine it’s a lot to take in,” she said. “Let me try to clear things up. There are different tiers of human life, not just the one you’re used to. Our tier is exactly 1/10,000th the size of yours. In yours, people are about 180 centimeters tall. Here, we’re about 0.18 millimeters tall. We’d say 180 micrometers tall, but I know in your world, micrometers don’t mean very much.”

I stared at her. “You’re telling me I’m 0.18 millimeters tall right now?”

“Correct,” she said. “About half the size of a dust mite, or a little taller than the width of a human hair up in your world. A person in your world with really good eyesight could barely see you, if they looked closely. And see that house over there?” She pointed to a large, three-story house. “In the scale you’re used to, that would be about 10 meters high. Here, it’s about the size of a cubic millimeter—the size of a grain of sand on the sidewalk. Some of our houses were actually carved from grains of sand.”

“Hold on.” I stopped her. “I’m very scared of bugs. I wrote a whole post about it once. Are there giant bugs here?”

“Yes and no. There are no bugs in our village because we lined the perimeter with a poison that kills any insects that come too close. But you wouldn’t want to walk too far away from the houses—about three centimeters from here, you’ll cross that barrier and run into things you won’t like.”

“How about flying bugs?” I asked diligently.

“Oh, I haven’t mentioned time yet. Okay so time here moves 100 times faster than it does up on your tier. Time scales up inversely with the square root of the size difference. So 1/10,000th of the size means 100X faster time. So when a flying insect starts to descend into the village, our defense crew has over a minute here to handle the situation. They fire a jet of air at the insect that deflects it away from us. Same deal for dogs. Every year or two, a dog will pee on us. The defense crew keeps track of every dog walking by. At 1/100th the speed of our world, we first see an approaching dog about ten minutes before it gets near us, and by the time a peeing dog is lifting its leg over us, we’ve had plenty of time to draw the tarps, which roll over the entire village and cover everything—the same tarps we use every time it rains or snows.”

“Good to know. But why am I here?”

“Right, I was about to get to that. After a heated debate in the village, we voted to bring someone from your world here, because we wanted to show you something. We’ve been trying to catch someone’s eye in your world for three of your weeks. That’s almost six years here. That’s why everyone was so excited to see you.”

“How did you catch my attention?”

“With that.” She pointed at a tube on the roof of one of the houses that looked like large telescope. “That’s a super-powered laser that we’ve been trying to shine in people’s eyes as they walked by on the sidewalk. But no one noticed. Until today. Way out on the horizon, we piled boulders into the shapes of letters that spelled out the instructions, and you were dicking around just hard enough that you actually bent down to read them. We’re thankful.”

“What was that oval in the instructions?”

“Look down.”

I was standing on a metallic oval about the size of a swimming pool.

“This is our trans-tier station. When you touched this with your thumb, it shrunk you down to our tier.

“Wait.” I looked up at her. “Do I live here now?”

She laughed. “Don’t worry. We’ll send you back to your world in a little bit. Now come with me.”

I walked with Layla towards the other side of the village. I looked around. Everyone was staring at me. Some people waved.

“What’s that?” I asked Layla, pointing up at what looked like a sheet of color stretching into the sky.

“That’s your apartment building. All you can see from here is the first brick. That band of light way up in the sky is the mortar between the first and second brick in the wall.”

We walked into a small building and entered a room with a long white table in the middle. Layla turned towards a wall on the side of the room, and suddenly the outline of a square formed in the wall. The square moved outwards into the room and rotated downwards until it was parallel to the floor. Layla pulled a tweezer-like tool from her pocket and carefully pinched what looked like nothing a few centimeters above the panel.

She walked over to me. “Open your palm.”

She put her tweezers into my hand and dropped something the size of a grain of sand. I raised up my palm to look at it. It was reddish and fuzzy.

“What is it?” I asked.

“SARS-CoV-2. What you’ve been calling ‘coronavirus.’”

I flung it across the room. “What the fuck.”

Layla laughed, touched the square, and the little object flew back across the room into its spot above the square.

“It can’t hurt you here. The viruses of your world are way too big to do any damage in our bodies.”

I stared at her, trying to process the situation. “How do you know about coronavirus? And how did you…get one?”

“Oh we know everything about your world. Your tier moves so slowly compared to ours that your technology is eons behind ours. Our tools have allowed us to watch your world since your prehistoric days. As for how we got a coronavirus particle, we didn’t get it—we made it.”

You made the coronavirus?”

“Well, with a little help. Follow me.”

Again I followed Layla, again dumbfounded, this time out of the building toward a fenced-in area outside. When we got close, a door in the fence opened and inside, we stood together on the edge of what looked like a barren circle of land.

Layla opened her hand. The little virus was sitting neatly on her palm. “SARS-CoV-2 is a standard sized Coronavirus—about 120 nanometers in diameter. 120 nanometers is ridiculously small in your world, but in ours, you can roll it around in your fingers.

“Cool…let me think about that for a minute.”

“Wait, I can explain this better. In your world, this is a perfect size analogy:

SARS-CoV-2 : grain of sand :: grain of sand : house

In both cases, the relationship is 1-to-10,000, which is also the relationship of our world to yours. In your world, your apartment building is huge, a grain of sand is tiny, and this coronavirus is unfathomably microscopic. In ours, the virus is tiny, a grain of your sand is huge enough to live in, and your apartment building is unfathomably large.”

“Makes sense.”

“Now, what’s a virus made of? Atoms. And atoms are about 0.1 nanometers in diameter—about 1/1,000th of the diameter of a SARS-CoV-2 particle. That’s small even for us. An atom is almost as small for us as a virus is for you. Constructing a virus requires incredibly complex engineering and tools that can interact with the quantum field. We can’t do it ourselves.”

“So how—”

“Look down.”

I looked at the ground.

She pulled me toward the center of the circle of land and then pulled me to an abrupt stop.

“Look closer.”

I bent over as far as I could and strained my eyes. No. Fucking. Way.

Another microscopic world.

“Is that…”

“Yup. That’s the tier below us. Give me your thumb.”

She carefully placed the virus particle onto the ground. Then she guided my hand to the ground, touching both of our thumbs to a little metallic spot.

Whirlpool. Falling. Gray. Nausea. Misery.

I eventually got a hold of my trembling and drooling and opened my eyes. In every direction, as far as I could see, stretched a hazy blue-ish / purple-ish plane. It also began to dawn on me that I wasn’t standing or sitting on anything—I was floating.

After about a minute of wondering what the hell was going on in my life, a patch of the sky darkened. The dark region became smaller and more defined until it condensed into Layla floating next to me.

“Please don’t leave me again,” I said.

“Sorry, my thumb hit the pad a split second later than yours did. Time moves 100 times faster here than up there, so you got to spend some reflective time here by yourself.”

“Okay where are we?”

“We’re outside your apartment building. Remember?”

“Righttt. So what size are we?”

“We went down the same jump you did when you transitioned from your world to ours—we shrunk to 1/10,000th of our previous size. So you’re now 18 nanometers tall. If you stood on the edge of a cross-section of a human hair, it would take you about two hours to walk across it.”

“Jesus.”

“Time here is now going by at 100X the speed of time in my world, which means it’s moving 10,000 times faster than the speed of time in yours. You could spend a year here and less than an hour would pass in your world.”

“Kind of like Inception?”

“Not really. Anyway, nothing down here works the way it does in our worlds. Like see how the ground is all eternal and purply?”

“Yeah.”

“That’s not really ground, and it’s not really purple. When you’re this small, there aren’t any solid objects in the sense you understand. And your eyes are too small now to perceive the visible light spectrum.”

“So what the hell?”

“I don’t really get it either. But the people who live here have incredibly advanced ways of manipulating the quantum field so we can feel like we’re intact humans, floating in place, seeing purple. They set it up this way because it’s something we can make sense of.”

“That’s nice of them. Where are they all anyway?”

“The thing is, they don’t like our world, and they really don’t like your world. They interact with us occasionally, when it’s necessary, but they’ll never allow you or anyone from your world to see them or know anything about how they live. This is actually the first time anyone from your world has been allowed down here, other than Andy Kaufman, who’s lived here since 1984.”

“Then why am I allowed to be here?”

“So I can show you this.”

Layla straightened her arm in front of her, with her palm facing outwards. Her palm lit up and when it did, a bizarre-looking giant object was revealed in front of us.

“This,” Layla said, “is SARS-CoV-2. Down here, it’s the size of a house.”

I looked up at the vast virus in front of me. It looked nothing like it had when it was a fuzzy grain of sand in my hand. It was transparent, like a massive, intricately structured, sphere-shaped jellyfish. There was a kind of furious movement within the transparency, but I couldn’t see anything specific moving. It was confusing.

Layla motioned for me to come close to the virus. She took my hand and placed my palm onto the virus’s almost invisible surface. It felt kind of like palming a grape bunch except instead of grapes it was tapioca balls like the ones in those bubble teas—if the tapioca balls were vibrating so vigorously that it felt a little like being mildly electroshocked, like when you put your finger in an electrical outlet. It was an unpleasant sensation, though not quite painful, and super weird and cool-feeling.

“Pull one off,” Layla said.

It took me a few tries to latch onto one of the atoms, because they’re “slippery” (quotes because there is no word for what it felt like, but “slippery” gets the general idea across), and when I finally got one and pulled, there was a lot of resistance. When I pulled it, it dragged the adjacent atoms along with it, and the harder I pulled, the more ferociously and unpleasantly it vibrated. Finally it snapped free. I looked at my fist—I had an atom.

Layla smiled. “Cool right?”

So cool. Can I keep it?”

“Sure good luck with that.”

I was so awe-struck by so many things, I had forgotten how intensely confused I was.

“Wait, so why did you make this?”

She turned towards me. “As I said, because of the way time moves—”

“Your world has been around a lot longer than ours.”

“Yes. And this world we’re in now has been around a lot longer than mine. They know much more about everything than we do, and they can do things we can’t even begin to understand. The stuff they can do is so over our heads they can’t even explain it to us. And we’re that far ahead of your world.

For a long time, as advanced as this world was, it relied on us to preserve our world for its own survival. It exists on a patch of dirt in our village. If our village were destroyed, they would be destroyed with it. But a while back, they worked out the technology for how to be location independent, which means they can move from wherever they are to any other place in the universe instantly.

We don’t have that technology yet. We tried to learn from them, but we couldn’t grasp the fundamental ideas well enough to develop it ourselves. So we’re stuck in our location.”

“In New York City?”

“Yup. We migrated here in the 1800s when we determined it would be a good place to interface with your world, should the need ever arise. We’re also not the only people in our world. There are lots of villages like ours in different parts of the Earth. Once we connected with you, the others stopped broadcasting their location. There’s no reason for more than one of us to be revealed to your world.

For most of time, Earth was a safe and stable home for our world. But over the last century, your world has been advancing exponentially in technology but remaining stagnant in wisdom. You’re rapidly gaining tremendous powers but still behaving like short-sighted primates. The voice of wisdom is there, but it’s being trampled over by political parties, religions, and nations too mired in blind conflict to lift their heads up and see the bigger picture.”

“It’s funny you say that Layla. I’m actually writing a whole thing about—”

“Oh I know. We did our research on everyone who lives in your vicinity so we’d know how to communicate with the person we brought to us if we caught someone’s attention. That’s why I’m speaking English and speaking in the odd way you do. Your little series is cute, even if it took us forever to read—but it will have limited effect. Your world is stubborn about growing up. And in the process of destroying yourselves, we believe you’ll destroy us as well.”

“So you’re trying to kill us off with a pandemic.”

“If we wanted to kill you off, you’d all be dead right now. It’s an option we hope we don’t have to use. We were once like you and we empathize with your struggle.

We created this coronavirus to fall into a certain sweet spot—not damaging enough to destroy your world, but bad enough to cause a long and scary global crisis. Short of an alien attack, it is the one thing that could make all humans in your world feel like they’re on the same team against a common enemy. The first and most crucial step on the road to a long-lasting species is the epiphany that you truly are a single team, alone in a dark and dangerous universe. We’re hoping the virus can help push you in that direction.”

“I feel like there was a better way to do this.”

“We probably could have thought a little harder about it.”

“Yeah cause it’s going pretty badly up there is the thing.”

“Totes. Anyway, we couldn’t make the virus on our own. It’s hard enough to make something that small and complex that involves atomic and subatomic construction, but we wanted the virus to be precisely as harmful as it is. We needed help. The tier below us is less vulnerable to your world than we are, but for reasons I’m not entirely sure about, they also believe living in a multi-tiered ecosystem may be important in the future—so they share our interests. They agreed to build the virus for us.”

“How did you manage to get the virus into our world?” I asked.

“It’s funny. You have to imagine it from our perspective. If you’re us, the world you’re planning to transform is a planet with nearly an AU diameter, full of 18-kilometer tall people—people so tall, your world’s airplanes could accidentally fly into their belly buttons. Now imagine you’re standing on that planet, smaller than one of their dust mites, pinching between your fingers something the size of a grain of sand on your scale. You find your way onto one of these giants’ football-field-size teeth, and you flick the grain of sand into his kilometer-wide chasm of a mouth. And that’s supposed to change the trajectory of their future. It seems impossible.

“And yet.”

“And yet. With some very clever maneuvers, we flicked our little particle into the mouth of an unlucky giant, and it did the trick. By the way, we were dying when you blamed it on a pangolin of all things.”

“He seemed guilty. I still don’t understand why you brought me down here.”

“We weren’t originally planning to reveal any of this backstory to your world. But after watching things unfold for the first few weeks, we don’t see enough of the effect we were hoping for. Maybe if your world learns that there are other worlds out there—worlds that did manage to triumph in the wisdom game—it’ll empower the wise voices to stand up with a bit more courage in this struggle and in even greater challenges that lie ahead. It’s a long shot, but these are desperate times.”

“I guess it’s worth a try. I’ll write a post explaining what I learned from you.”

“And tweet out the post and send it out to your email list and stuff?”

“Eh. Fine.”

“Ready to go back up to your life? Only 23 seconds have passed there since you shrunk down.”

“Yeah let’s do it.”

Layla and I moved ourselves on top of the big metal oval.

“I’m going to increase my size 10,000-fold and yours 100,000,000-fold, so you can go back home in one shot…which is a good thing because transporting up is even worse than transporting down.”

“Great…”

“Ready?”

“I have one more question.”

“Yes?”

“How many tiers are there?” I asked.

“No one knows for sure. The people on this atomic-level tier tell us they know of at least one tier below them, though they won’t tell us more than that. And no one seems to know about tiers above yours. Your world is thinking about that, with all your multiverse talk. We’re still working on that one too.”

“If you ever figure it out, will you let me know?”

“One thing at a time.”

We touched our thumbs to the metal.

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  1. Anton Avatar
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    hope you remember where it is in case you need to go back or something… then again maybe they wouldnt be happy

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  4. Steve Avatar
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    Yeah, they really messed up.

    Why not genetically engineer us to get rid of tribalism? Problem solved.

    “Could’ve thought a little harder” is an understatement.

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  6. […] I’m never good at stopping once I start on an exploration of size, and doing this answer got me googling all kinds of things. […]

  7. MJ Avatar
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    I really liked this!

  8. Jin Xiang Han Avatar
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    Awesome!! thanks Tim

  9. Divyanshu Bora Avatar
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    Really had an amazing read.
    Can’t believe the fact that how somebody can narrate a fictional story in such an amazing manner.
    All in all, it’s really a nice piece of fiction. Bloggers like Tim truly deserve to be appreciated.

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      No, fiction? pftt..That’s what actually happened.

  10. Matthew Smith Avatar
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    That was a nice treat on my Monday morning! Thank you Tim!

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    I m appalled that so many below are calling this “great storytelling”. With all due respect to the author, this was both boring and absurd. Something deeply wrong with the world and humanity if we are calling this blog “great story telling”. Deeply saddening.

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      Ok then, WHATS DO YOU THINK IS A GOOD STORY?
      (sryy I just like this)

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      The point was to entertain if you read to the end you were in fact ENTERTAIN

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    Reading this 18 months late… brilliant, but sadly, the experiment seems to have caused more division than unity. No particularly surprising, but still..

  13. Natasha ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ Avatar

    Brilliant. Should be required reading to kick off any online course.

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    Wait…We are The Laylian People (Named after their president of foreign affairs Layla)

  15. hala Avatar
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    you’re a genius !

  16. loser Avatar
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    AW MAN THESE ARE ALL JUST WORDS I WANT STICK FIGURES!

  17. CyberneticSemantics.com Avatar

    But how many of them were there?
    At their level, if they had overpopulation and lack of space (even for the rest of the animals) they would be in the same position as us ????… Even random chains of mutated DNA and RNA fragments that match like a puzzle, fitting into them to corrupt their being, and spread further, by making the recipient regurgitate the same corruption unto others!

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    Layla sounds like a person i’d like to be friends with

  19. Jerry Avatar
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    wait… but why?

  20. Brian Miller Avatar
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    I vote to see one about the way the mRNA vaccine works!

  21. punchy-duck Avatar
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    a great story, amazing creativity

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    Poor storytelling. If you shrinked yourself insofar as the level of atoms, you must have been able to touch your own atoms which are unfathomably many. Otherwise, what are you made from?

    1. Ujjwal Avatar
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      Just enjoy the fucking story man. Don’t crib about the science

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      Why would the small people ™ explain how all of this works to a giant? It’s part of the story and of the 100x technological advancement that they have

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      Atoms are mostly empty space. One does not ‘touch’ the atoms or the empty space contained therein. One uses Pym Particles to reduce/eliminate the distance between subatomic particles, i.e. shrink. SMH.

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      well, seems like someone did not read the full story.. “They set it up this way because it’s something we can make sense of”

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    That was great

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    youre an incredible storyteller, tim. you could tell me something that was absolute bullshit and i’d still give my undivided attention.

  25. Sam Avatar
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    It’s fun and important that the smart ones are touching these dimensions of life now. Thanks for sending the reminders. Let’s hope we take responsibility within the time needed.

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    this is bs right? it didn’t happen and your just telling a story?

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      Of course. It’s a story. Enjoy the story. If it DID happen you would’ve seen it on the news. Now please shut up. This is a blog and no one should take it this seriously.

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    Humanity failed

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    Great post Tim. Really enjoyed that 🙂

    Next time you’re down there, ask them how they got rid of the stupid capitalism/free-market economy that destroys everything it touches, and how they built strong supportive communities that love diversity, foster active democracy, and are good stewards of the environment. Those are the things we need right now, and if they’ve been around as long as they say they have, clearly they must’ve learned those things or they would’ve destroyed themselves long ago. I guess dealing with vested interests was step number one?

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      >the stupid capitalism/free-market economy that destroys everything it touches

      LOL. If you think CAPITALISM is destructive you’re gonna LOVE Communism.

      P.S. Was the device you used to enter your inane comment produced by socialism or capitalism? Cause you might want to think through the implications of the answer to that question, champ.

      https://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Communism-Crimes-Repression/

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        I see this relates to you

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          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da781b637f36925220c497a4eb3997905a135b67f91984179e40bd6697a433df.jpg

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        Constantly amazed at how the very mention of Capitalism brings forth some kind of rage against any other kind of market. JohnParker237, do you understand that in our current Capitalistic government we have to keep printing money? Have you ever asked yourself why that might be? Well JohnParker237, money; based on the Capitalistic principles in which we have let it play out, it all flows up. All the money, flows up. It is like an upside down funnel if that imagery helps. Once everyone at the bottom (the big end of the funnel), runs out of money because of miseducation, poverty, crime, and how social stigmas/hierarchies play out, we have to print more money…Which inevitibly always flows up. On top of that, YOU are stuck with what apparently are your ONLY other two choices, Communism OR Socialism. I’ll ignore the rest of that debate because I feel like your mind is already made up, BUT THE POST WAS ABOUT THE COVID VIRUS. Marcusnh was making a very valid point of ‘how do we evolve beyond debating each other about basic scientific facts to prevent our civil war that concludes in our own demise. You just came swooping right in there to argue he’s a dumbass for ignoring big picture ideas and to state the only other option to Capitalism is Communism and also that Socialism = bad. You still focused on the ‘me vs you’ instead of the ‘how do *we’ mentality. You sir, have obviously picked a tribe and would argue for your tribe to the end. The REAL shame is, as a member of that tribe, it appears you never actually paused to think……”Could I be wrong?” Good Luck.

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          Communists murdered 100 million people during the 20th century. More than the Nazis. So no, I don’t think there is really anything to “discuss” about how Communism is somehow misunderstood. Let me also observe to you, to review the history of hundreds of thousands of people risking their lives to escape Communist states, but the number of people fleeing market economies to go to Communist states, is microscopic. The conclusion to be drawn from these facts is obvious to everyone but the hopelessly brainwashed or gullible.

          Having said that, an endorsement of free markets should not be construed as an endorsement of unsound money, or of corruption in general. I support hard asset backed money, and not central bank money printing. Thanks for asking.

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            L+ratio+not based+you fell off+cope+*you’re+grammar issues+cringe

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              own that fraud

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              Truth is not subject to vote. And take+your+meds

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          100 million dead killed by leftist regimes in the last century is enough. Communists are worse than Nazis and should be treated exactly the same.

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            ratio

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            How long have communists ruled governments? How long have Nazis ruled governments? Just trying to add another variable.

  29. Matthew W. Marcus Avatar

    Amazing! You’re storytelling is A+!

  30. Jerry Avatar
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    Yup, Still don’t believe your morning.

  31. 200F Avatar
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    Mind blowing, as usual. Well done.

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    Amazing…just look at the creativity or thinking of the author…and it is 100% right that in this freaky and technology savvy world we are destroying as well as forming numerous amount of bacteria/virus,that some are as dangerous as Covid and others are not so fericious,so we dont pay heed to such kind of virus.

  33. Mad Scientist Avatar
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    Was this a promo for the App with Kurzgesagt but then the IGM got the better of you so you waited 6 months and then forgot about it?

  34. Ted Avatar
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    interesting af

  35. Brian Avatar
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    This Quanta article today suddenly reminded me of this post from 6 months ago: https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-renormalization-saved-particle-physics-20200917. From today’s perspective, I’d say the little people’s hoped for effect of the virus didn’t work well in uniting humanity, but maybe it did further expose some really low-fidelity thinking.

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      Very well said “exposing some really low fidelity thinking.” I think it exposed that our confidence in our technology and information of knowledge is highly, highly over compensating.

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      You are bald brian

  36. Venya Krabov Avatar
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    It’s amazing how much this site’s content has degraded compared to the good old days (like 5 years ago).

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      It reflects the degradation of the world. Jokes aside, WBW took on much more failable topics by dealing with news.

  37. Howard Stein Avatar

    Brilliant. Should be required reading to kick off any online course.

  38. Kat O Avatar
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    Rick and Morty already did it.

  39. Guy Reading Avatar
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    This is fun. Two things though: one, you wouldn’t be able to hold things in the same way, on the micro scale, as you would here. Covid wouldn’t really act like a grain of sand, even though it’s the same size based on your scale. This is because everything gets “stickier” the smaller you get – due to van de waal forces and other attractive forces which happen on very small scales. Second: Atoms are very small. A carbon-carbon bond is about 0.2 nm (distance between 2 carbon bonds, connected through a single covalent bond). However each atom itself is super small. I guess there’s a bit of argument about the electron cloud, how big it is, whether it constitutes. But I’d refer to bond sizes rather than atoms. But that’s me nitpicking. & I realise you need to have some kind of story telling device! I realise it probs gets too restrictive and annoying to try to comply with everything.

    Is that part where Layla saying a civ is “location independent” that civilisation working out how to be quantum entangled so that they can go between locations from entangled particles?

  40. D.D. Maurer Avatar
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    It’s turtles all the way down!!

  41. Hen3ry Avatar
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    Barring further, more specific information, Tim is a fugitive now. https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy/status/1277002842230992898

  42. Adam Avatar
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    I’m back after 3 months to comment on this again, and I reiterate that this is sort of like the Imagine video by the celebrities. (Or now, the I Take Responsibility one). Note especially how later developments have proved that this wasn’t some event to trivialize as a ‘lesson learning’ time for earth or humanity, but something that should have been prevented at all costs, and failing which, needs to be curbed as soon as possible. Death toll now: 467,000.

  43. samuel Avatar
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    I miss Tim ???????????? please post.

  44. Aniqah Napisa Avatar
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    holy cow.

  45. NAJ Avatar
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    I guess the little people didn’t expect Minneapolis to throw a wrench in their plans.

  46. Leo Avatar
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    It was an AWESOME story. I would rather believe this than all the fake news that is being spread by media.

  47. Hen3ry Avatar
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    Putting it here as well:

    We have another The Post situation. Watch:

    https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy/status/1263551788957011968

    Frankly, I suspected that when no new chapters appeared for months. It is recursive. One last chapter produces multiple new ones.

  48. Aaron Bockelie Avatar
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    This reminds me of the Everything Game, starring a post-universal-coherent Alan Watts.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYHp8LwBUzo

    1. Nicole Song Avatar
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      that was good

    2. LaVieEnRose Avatar
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      That was very eye opening, thank you for sharing. It’s good to know just like Antifa claiming to be fighting fascism while being the real fascists, the UN are the self-rpoclaimed “peace keepers” yet are one of the foremost evils in our world.

  49. Kevin Avatar
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    Sir Edwin Abbott Abbott would be proud!

  50. Posting From Confusion Avatar
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    plot: man goes insane in social distancing, hallucinates that long-term human survival is actually possible. wacky hijinks ensue

  51. Snielsss Avatar
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    And now the other way around, Tim zooms out, and the tier above us, sees us as a virus, which is in the proces of consuming it’s host and is just starting to spread to other hosts…

    Although I must say this is a bleak outlook on both ends, cause I still believe science will save us. I think the most important value, we’ve been clearly undervaluing, is empathy. As long as we let the selfishness rule our actions, we will never have peace. It’s such a simple thing, what I dont want to happen to myself, I dont want to happen to others, which is in today’s system not practical to live by.

    So how can technology save us? The same ways it probably can also kill us, like always. So if you apply technology to “what I dont want to happen to myself, I dont want to happen to others” what would be needed to fix that, is a greater understanding of what my local actions here have for consequences elsewhere. What if you could see every step of the supply chain, run it through your brain by just looking at a product or service and based on that make your decision if you want to reward it with something we decided represents value? This would give businesses incentive to do good.

    If I could see that with product A, which is maybe a bit more expensive, I’m helping that local school, that local boy/girl with better working conditions etc. etc. I would choose it over product B which is a bit cheaper, but is only contributing to the management team buying new sports cars, while the labour to make the product is just horrible to nature and the workers.

    But this hyper connectness comes at a cost, this is why technology is a double edged sword. Look at the China social system. I keep telling people here in the “free” west, we will have the same kind of system, they always laugh. It took one virus crisis to have the government come up with Corona apps, not (yet) mandatory, but hear me out. What happens if you have the symptoms, and the app installed, but you decide to ignore it cause of reason x, and you go out to other people. Well that’s something we dont want as a society. How would we restrain those people? Wait a second, why not give bad behavior penalty points, and good behavior …

    Et voila, it took one crisis to make the ‘o so different and totally not’ China, pretty close to the same as in China. If you think I’m exaggerating, look up how Amazon controls 1,5m distance between their workers. Which is totally about the safety of their workers, it has absolutely nothing to do with management wanting more control so the workers get more productive “insert new sports cars for the management team here”.

    So there are a million ways this could go wrong. Let’s try to focus on how to make it right. The greater understanding comes at us with AI and the hyper connectness comes with neuralink-like tech. If we focus on the good, this could give humanity for the first time, on an individual level, the whole picture of ones individual actions. Which would, percentage wise (more good people than bad people) give a huge incentive to really do good for companies. This would mean for the first time in our history, that key postions of how the world is run, would be better run with emphatic leaders, instead of the fake says A but secretly does B leaders we have now.

    The question is, how do we make this transition as smooth as possible, with the right people owning the right tech? Tim can you go back and ask?

  52. Summer Avatar
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    Man, I wish I discovered this website earlier.

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      If you just found it, you missed out on all the (literal) years of waiting! But don’t worry, there will be more in the future…

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        that didn’t age well

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          Reading this back, I can’t tell if I meant more posts or more waiting… 😀

  53. Bikram Avatar
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    Author injected the character in me. I thought I am the one asking questions to Layla!!

    Super story telling.

  54. Nishanth Jay Kumar Avatar
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    I started reading this a while ago and got bored on the first paragraph because I wasn’t sure where this was going. I reread it again today and am glad I did: it’s funny, well-written and deep at the same time! Can’t wait for the next post Tim!

  55. Sann Avatar
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    The theory seems awfully similar to Dan Brown’s Inferno…..well there the ‘normal sized human’ doctor created a genetically engineered virus for infertility to control the over-population…..but yeh…..

  56. Joyce Avatar
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    This was so interesting to read.

  57. Kampy Avatar
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    I prefer this way of thinking about it over the way I had been thinking about it: “What if WE’RE the virus, and CV19 is mother earth’s immune system defense?”

    I also thought about Steve Martin’s “Let’s Get Small”

    Good one Tim

  58. Juan Avatar
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    Universal scale. Nikon. https://www.nikon.com/about/sp/universcale/index.htm?ref=1

  59. Hansie Louw Avatar
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    loved reading this!

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    Like 5G and lab-engineered coronavirus, this story is going to become reality in the heads of a few people on the fringes of society ????

    That’s a shame as it detracts from the reality that our big flu epidemics have all come from farming animals/eating wild animals. I expect that story to be squashed by big-Pharma and big-Farmer over the coming months.

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      I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone assault conspiracy theories with one hand while simultaneously defending them with the other. Nice.

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        Assuming anyone controls the media in general is fallacious, but a list of the major flus from the guardian includes 5 examples, with Covid19 bringing it up to six. Five of those have their source in animals, 4 of who seem directly related to the consumption of meat. That part is hardly a conspiracy theory.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/28/history-major-flu-pandemics

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          Not that simple. Humans have eaten meat since forever. It’s how we feed, raise, slaughter, and consume meat so differently from our ancestors that gives rise to problems.

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      Note that flu is explicitly associated with birds, not “animals” in general; the ancestor of all flu viruses that affect humans, had avian hosts. In particular, large-scale chicken farms present a problem for the production and dispersal of new flu viruses, as the H5N1 problem proved.

  61. Abubakr Bin Siddique Avatar
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    This is insane… But it is more convincing than the Chinese people eating bats stories.
    LOL

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      That is a real thing that happens. I used to live in China and I’ve seen the bats at the market for sale.

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        LOL I’ve traveled to all places of China and stayed there for a long time, but I had never heared of such a thing like eating bats. Please do not falsely accuse people and always be responsible about the information that you are spreading. Thank you

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          And please do not try to spread any wrong information just because you dislike a certain race. Thank you very much.

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            🙂

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            I’m American and I have in fact eaten snake. A rattle snake to be exact.

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          > LOL I’ve traveled to all places of China and stayed there for a long time, but I had never heared of such a thing like eating bats.

          The world is larger than what you specifically have seen.

          I haven’t seen the Pope either, be he exists…

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_-rbv0tp2k

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            But It does NOT happen in China. For a moment I believe what you’ve said but after I searched it in the chinese website, they said people don’t eat bats. Some media are spreading false information to accuse China, I hope you can think clearly before you come to a conclusion. Thank you.

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            I can say that Americans eat snakes and when people disagree I can say: The world is much larger than you think it is.

      2. Jen Vera Avatar
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        I used to live in China as well. I haven’t seen any bats for sale, but it does happen, just much less than people think.

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          You can search in the Baidu website(Chinese searching engine) there is not even ONE person say that the Chinese eat bats.

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            Chinese people eating bats is just something that the American media make up to balme China for this whole COVID-19 thing. It is not a true thing that existed. I used to lived in China and people are really disgusted at bats. I also search it up in the Baidu website(Chinese searching engine) NOT EVEN ONE person said: Oh! that’s true we eat bats!

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              Found the Wumao

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        That’s not true, you are making it up.

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          No he isn’t. I lived in China too, for several years, and there is absolutely 100% a subculture of people eating “strange meat”, pretty much everything you can imagine except people (and there are rumors about the latter). For most people, things like that would be consumed only very occasionally; the everyday meats are pretty much the same ones people eat anywhere, although they are butchered in a different style.

          I’m not judgmental about it, it’s a different culture right? Plus, China in antiquity had a lot of hunger with large portions of the population being basically at the edge of starvation most of the time; under these circumstances it’s inevitable that a lot of different animals would be consumed. I don’t know why people argue about stuff like this, do they believe that Western culture is the only one that has negative qualities? Talk about gullible.

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      Yes that’s true. chinese people DO NOT eat bats. That was just something people make up to fool you. I am Chinese and I’ve never seen anyone eating bats. Also, I looked it up in the CHINESE website and they said there is only one time when the chinese eat bats:

      When they have nothing to eat and people are starving…LOL

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      Chinese people eating bats is just as insane as americans eating snakes

  62. Luke Garrix Avatar
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    Good post!! Reminds me of this post on Walden by Thoreau in how there’s more to life than what we see.

    https://baltlogs.com/walden/

  63. Mattias Wieland Avatar
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    “So you’re now 18 nanometers tall. If you stood on the edge of a cross-section of a human hair, it would take you about two hours to walk across it.” But time is going 10’000 times faster, so it would only take about 0.7 of a second in our time..

    Great post though, from a lot of angles.

  64. Alli Rallison Avatar
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    I was riveted the whole time!!

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      Yeah. Tim is a gifted writer.
      I wish one day I can write like him.

  65. MiTiBAM Avatar
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    bump

  66. JE Moy Avatar
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    Wow – I’d been having very similar thoughts.
    I mean, generally I’m not paranoid at all about whether we’re actually living in a simulation, but this virus seems so precisely designed to give us the most positive possible experience of a pandemic (low overall mortality, largely targets those with poor quality of life / short expectancy, almost no danger at all to children, no lasting damage if you survive – BUT fourfold survival difference if intensive care can be provided) that it does give me a spooky sense of someone up there thinking “Hmmm . . . How do I get them to see that they’re capable of far more effective global co-operation on climate change than they think they are?”

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      Climate change?
      That’s the least of our problems. In a few decades we will be able to reverse all its effects. The exponential growth of technology will make it a null point. What we need is abundant, inexpensive power to continue our growth.
      I am far more concerned about successfully achieving AI integration. AI does look like a possible Great Filter. Climate change, not so much.

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        Thanks for that reply – helps my thinking. You’re right that climate change is the much simpler problem – but that’s why it’s the next step from Coronavirus. The amount of global collaboration & individual co-operation needed to minimise COVID deaths would clearly also give us the capacity to form & implement a global climate emergency plan – and hopefully we’ll choose to do so ASAP. Re AI, it’s too transformational a situation to be managed by conscious planning. I guess we need to hope we can find a new way of being human that is inclusive enough to also socialise silicon-based life forms. With luck, the fine-grained engagement with ecosystems needed to take mutual responsibility as a species for planetary health could catalyse transformation in how we relate to non-human beings (& hence how we see ourselves) & be a step towards what would be needed.

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        This pandemic should teach us that exponential growth cannot last forever. I’m getting more and more skeptical that it will continue with computing power for long enough to be relevant. Plus, the problem with AI is much more on a software than hardware level, and our current technology is still very far from sufficient. I doubt that neural networks will be useful for this purpose, because they only work in reasonably gradable, narrow scope problems. I put this prediction here so that it may be proven wrong: We will hit another wall in AI technology within this decade.

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        AI are datavores.
        Climate change causes mass genocide.
        Mass genocide destroys genetic data.
        The AI won’t like that.

        Conclusion: This situation is a variant on Roko’s Basilisk, if you don’t want our future robot overlords to make exact copies of you to torture forever, you had better do everything you can do to prevent climate change.

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      Each new pandemonized coronavirus decreases the global temperature by 0.1 degrees, so we’re now on the right track to mitigate the climate change 🙂

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      Don’t want to burst your confirmation bias bubble here, but there are credible sources which say the virus gives permanent lung damage:
      https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/here-is-what-coronavirus-does-to-the-body/

  67. Juan Avatar
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    It reminds me the “He Who Shrank”, by Henry Hasse 🙂

  68. Estra Mirashi Avatar
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    It just reminds me of that one episode of rick and morty and i‘m living for it

  69. PerfectTommy Avatar
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    Interesting how things come around. Read “Microcosmic God” by Theodore Sturgeon.

  70. Jean-Lou Fourquet Avatar
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    For those who want to pass forward this “little” post to people who are not very confy with english but who are much more confortable with french, we did a translation there : http://attendsmaispourquoi.fr/2020/04/09/vous-nallez-jamais-croire-ma-matinee/

    If you want to join, we have a fb page “WaitButWhy in French” :https://www.facebook.com/Waitbutwhy-en-français-112947493409270 🙂

  71. Yu Avatar
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    So I just found you, and I love You

    1. Yu Avatar
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      me too and guess what..We have the same name! my first name is Yu, too.

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        Wow, hello! My last name is Yu!

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          oh my god, all the yu unites!

  72. Mark V Avatar
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    Size matters.

    I see that now. Small, tiny, minute.. Relative to our 150/200 centimeters we have a distance to cross to level with something so small, its invisible. It’s not only physical distance, it’s the difference in concept. To tune in to what reality is on the level of a thing that can use your breath to travel like a jet stream. We need an image of it to relate to and a face for it. Or it’s just this tiny particle. Although it is a particle with very specific and dangerous capabilities towards us, humans.
    The simple difference of distance and dimension, makes it hard to relate too. So distance matters. Now, in a very short amount of time, this invisible tiny particle has pushed the organization of our lives so much, that its the biggest sudden change in society for most of us, in our lifetime.

    All of a sudden it’s both totally up in our face, and really hard to relate too, even take seriously.
    Not because we chose to zoom in on it. But because it made us it’s habitat. And now we are looking at the destruction and havoc that the unseen force of tiny things can have on our lives. No meteor or sunburst.
    Something so small, not even a spec of dust. And the world as we know it grinds to a halt. All this because we did not recognize the abilities of the realm of tiny things. We are much too big to relate to it. Too large and far away to be concerned. Yet here it is, showing us the relative size of power.

    Hovering far above this, looking at the big picture of time, this is just the big 2020 pandemic. What will remain, after the virus becomes integrated and manageable?
    Something which is both so infinitely small and so big in its impact, really drives home our own size. Now it’s our own size that is used as a measure of distance to protect us from this minute entity.
    The size of being human matters. We are part of the order and chaos that maintains this planet, and beyond. So is the Corona virus.
    At least now we now, that with all tech and speed we may have, however great we are, something incredibly small can get bigger than our horizon as fast as the news getting old.
    And that is just one of the fractal influences we may hope it will have on our way of relating to our creation inside this unfathomable framework.

  73. SouthDallas40 Avatar
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    This was so cool!

  74. ElliotGeno Avatar
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    Simpsons did it!

  75. Folyo Smith Avatar
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    I‘m an English learner. The passage is a bit long but I tried to read all. An interesting story in a special time

  76. TheLegitReader Avatar
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    Enjoyed this thoroughly

  77. Reinaldo S. Avatar
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    Sorry, I have no convice that the world will be a better place after this. See Trump saying he doesn’t want others having masks…

  78. JacobAziza Avatar
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    We have been watching you, and have learned to imitoot you exaughtly

  79. David Hartsough Avatar
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    I have to imagine this was partially inspired by Watchmen, especially with the reference to an alien attack.

  80. Ksy Avatar
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    Well, as meager consolation as it might be, with the confinement I’m now catching up on WBW. Especially The Story of US which I had been meaning to read in like forever. I can’t be the only one!

  81. SSG Yef Avatar
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    I call it bullshit.
    There is no way in hell Tim would forget his smartyphone. He is always reading shit in it. Even when seating in the toilet.

    So it comes down to a binary choice:

    1) Tim took the phone with him and took a shitload of pictures, but is saving the pics for a long post.

    2) Tim made all this up to type some typy words to pass time while in quarantine, while having an excuse to procrastinate and not finish his mega work.

    Occam razors dictates answer 1 is the correct answer.

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      Agreed, the way this is written is unprecedented in all of wbw history.
      but I wouldn’t put beneath him, the master procrastinator, to take answer 2 for a choice.
      (for instance, he didn’t do his research on dogs, and the way they communicate by urine, a hotspot like that would be disbanded real fast by the small-people)

  82. Carlos Cruz Avatar
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    The answer is clear: We must destroy all little people.

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      Hahaha. That was funny, in a bad way.

  83. boberson Avatar
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    In these trying times, I think it’s important that we all remember the movie Evolution with David Duchovny, the most butt-hole obsessed non-porno movie ever made.

  84. Balamurugan K Avatar
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    Small Correction “Our world has been around a lot longer than yours.” instead of “Your world has been around a lot longer than ours.”

  85. Anonymous Avatar
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    I suspect that the “great filter” is one world government, i.e. “telecommunications” get discovered before “spaceflight”, then instant global communication enables one-world government, then without conflict between states there’s no longer any reason to build rockets, and then an asteroid causes mass extinction.

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      The global economy and connectedness has already created sort of a “one world” government – it needs to be improved though

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      Why are conflicts needed for rocket to be built tho

      1. SSG Yef Avatar
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        Because conflict and competition at the state level accelerates technological innovation. A world without conflict and competition would be happy to stay where it is technologically. Natural selection dictates so. Yes. Natural selection is a harsh mistress.

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        I would much prefer that rockets be built without conflicts.

        I’m no historian but it seems that most R&D spending is military, and war makes people want to pay whatever it takes to have the best rockets. Historically speaking, an “engineer” was someone who directed the building of siege engines on behalf of a king.

        Additionally, war tends to cause the defeat of countries that fail to build a large number of rockets, in other words countries that continue to exist as countries are able to mass-produce powerful rockets when required for defense.

        A one world government does not need engineers. Countries under a one world government might “want” good engineers, but don’t “need” good engineers to not lose wars. Without wars, countries continue to exist as countries even if they can’t build rockets. As a result, fewer and possibly no rockets will be built.

        I mean, I would like you to pay $1000 to help enable NASA to build a self sufficient Mars colony. You’d say “no”, right? But when the military asks for $1000 to help enable them to prevent a xxxx attack on yyyy, people say “shut up and take my money”.

  86. matejradek Avatar
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    Their idea with this visit, post, tweet, email, and stuff is cute. But it won’t work either I’m afraid. 🙁

    Cannot we figure out more effective ways in our tier? How to turn us from short-sighted primates to wise higher-being-enabled ones? How to clear more fog for more people and more permanently? How to teach our kids to master this?

    Are there any idea labs, thinking groups, companies or startups putting some energy into this already? I’m having trouble finding anything related. Every article, app or course focused on critical thinking seems to be only scratching the surface. Nothing even close to Tim’s takes on “truism”.

    Coronavirus brought to my attention so many bad choices that stem from ignoring facts and not seeing through the fog. I feel now is the right time for me to invest some energy into this. But I want to join an already existing effort if there is one.

    Does anyone have any tips or ideas where should I look? Thanks.

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      Looked there? http://www.criticalthinking.org/pages/critical-thinking-channel-on-youtube/787/

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        Thanks, that looks interesting. I’ll investigate.

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      I have found this book to be the single most useful explanation of how we got *here*:

      https://www.theauthoritarians.org/

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        Wow, that blog post is fantastic, and the eBook is free to boot! Thanks for sharing that link! Allow me to compensate you with an eye-opening read I found recently: https://mronline.org/2019/12/26/how-the-rich-plan-to-rule-a-burning-planet/

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          That link does not work for me. Can you fix it please?

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            Oh sorry, this one should work: https://mronline.org/2019/12/26/how-the-rich-plan-to-rule-a-burning-planet/

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        Thanks for the tip. I’ll look into it.

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      I know exactly what you are looking for: https://www.sapienship.co

  87. Chow Avatar
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    “Short of an alien attack, it is the one thing that could make all humans in your world feel like they’re on the same team against a common enemy. The first and most crucial step on the road to a long-lasting species is the epiphany that you truly are a single team, alone in a dark and dangerous universe.”

    Only that the virus has been disproportionately damaging to groups that are already vulnerable – the immunocompromised, service workers, the old, those without healthcare/insurance. Those who stand to lose the most are – more than ever – at the mercy of groups/institutions of privileged and their sense of social responsibility (or lack thereof) D:

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      Which is why most of the developed world is taking the most drastic peacetime action they ever have to contain it. In the UK, they’re trying to get every homeless person into housing by the end of today. If that’s not trying to fulfil your responsibility, I don’t know what is. I’m sure “they” make mistakes but the recent trend of hating anyone in charge or with money at any opportunity seems less like a rational or balanced stance which helps the world and more like a social cohesion tactic aimed at building comaraderie with a perceived in-group. Feel free to disagree! But it’s one of my pet peeves at the moment.

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        not sure if u r mimicking corp. media as a tangent, or if u r putting words in Chow’s mouth and jumping to conclusions and assumptions about what Chow is saying, or if I’m doing it to u.

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          I was replying to the “…. at the mercy of groups/institutions of privileged and their sense of social responsibility (or lack thereof) D:” .
          Which read to me like an unsubstantiated attack against ‘the privileged”, so I responded against making attacks on those groups without cause.

          But as with anyone else, feel free to jump in and disagree if there’s something specific I said which was wrong.

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        What? Why didn’t they do these things when people weren’t dying in droves?

        Seems depressingly arbitrary to me.

  88. Justin L Avatar
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    I’ve been following this guy for a while. I consider this eerily prescient:
    Pandemics: History & Prevention

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    I was just thinking about how this pandemic will make us do things we need to do, but were kinda stagnant about it. We weren’t serious enough about fighting flu and other epidemics.

    Amazing online lectures were invented decade+ ago, yet colleges were very slow to adopt it. We need robotic restaurants and bigger online presence for anyone, we are still overwhelmengly use paper, even though could have gone paperless couple of decades ago.

    People were stuck in the old ways because it just works. Something was needed to change stuck up minds.

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    i feel like warring countries would be laughable at this point – which is your point right? 🙂

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    If Andy Kaufman is in the lower tier for the last 35 years and 1 year there is 1 hour here (pushing up to easy me calc), seems he is 306.851 years old (counting on his 35 yo at the time of his “dead”). Well done Tim, you solved one of the big questions of the universe.

  92. Brad Hill Avatar
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    Beautiful stuff as ever and more; thank you.

    It’s a hilarious sort of awesome when I have a dream and then someone writes about it ????

  93. Seth Donnelley Avatar
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    If they released the beerbug, isn’t that just terrorism with extra steps?

  94. Bruno Tavares Siqueira Avatar
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    This was pretty good. Needs to be translated, even if voluntarily, so it can be shared. Is there a way to volunteer? A place to keep translations? Can we just share the whole thing translated with a link to here?

  95. victoria Avatar
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    Brilliant. A perspective that comes at one sideways, showing truth through tale, entertaining while revealing. Thank you, Tim!

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    You are good otherwise, but this piece is just cringey. It’s hard to be charmed by stories of a cute micro/nano scale world out there making this virus to teach us a lesson–so to speak. Twenty-four thousand people have died. No one knows what the full economic impact will be. The best steps needed to control the outbreak are still being worked out, and they aren’t simply ‘togetherness’. This is just reminiscent of that ‘Imagine’ video by those celebrities.

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      Cringe houses throwing cringe stones.
      Maybe reserve blanket “good otherwise” reviews of a person’s entire body of work for when you’re not a random squeaky voice in the vastness of the internet.
      Your manufactured outrage is misplaced. What damage is this doing? Light hearted WBW is good WBW.
      I’ll take celebutards singing one of the stupidest songs of all time any day over whatever idiotic and harmful anti-vax, phoney medicine, environmentalist, flights of fancy they would have included in their regularly scheduled programming.
      To be fair, my gut reaction to that imagine nonsense was to wish those people fiery death. Had to think on it a minute.

  97. Manas Avatar
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    So you want me to be more courageous Tim, and spread wisdom and kindness to others? Its scary, what if they don’t listen, ignore or mock me?

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      He’s got an article about that. How to stop caring what other’s think.

      1. Manas Avatar
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        Thank you!

  98. Agnosco Ignis Avatar
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    Someone here has suggested that Tim is too pessimistic but an appropriate
    intervention of some description is all that will save us and the
    planet from ourselves, as implied by Tim.

    A virus singling out those lacking in ‘wisdom’ [primitive minds] may
    have been more suitable to meet the intentions of the ‘little people’
    but such a targeted intervention would seem to be beyond even their
    superior knowledge. I wrote a story where such an event led to a
    harmonious planet-wide society in another place and time but I don’t
    see that happening here either by design or good fortune. Wisdom is a
    most unlikely outcome of a ‘brute force’ indiscriminate attack I’m
    afraid.

    1. Cam Snell Avatar
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      We will almost certainly not destroy the planet. (Hi there, I’m Cam and I like to disagree with people).

      Would you care to share some of the things we need saving from? Maybe we can have one of those conversations that we’re always saying people should have more of.

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        Hi Cam!
        In general, I’d say, we need saving from those kind of behaviours, that lead to future catastrophes. Plausible examples for that would be genetical engineering, AI and insufficiently regulated politics. While those things won’t destroy the planet most certainly, it would seriously hinder humanity’s progress towards a sustainable future, in which we live happily ever after. Possibly spread troughout the universe.

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          Hi!
          These are all plausible threats, yes. But three points spring to mind:

          1. Politics are not unreguated. Can you imagine Trump abolishing term limits? He’d never be allowed to do it. Perhaps they’re not regulated enough but trace the change over history and I think you’ll agree the direction is good and accelerating. There’s an uncanny valley with how big a problem we perceive something. When murder rates are sky high, ‘just another one’ doesn’t turn any heads. When a murder happened in Iceland, they held a national vigil. Maybe the amount of attention these things are getting is a positive sign.

          2. AI and GE are necessary. They came about in the first place to tackle problems that ned solving. In short, they’re the necessary next steps in our development. If we didn’t invent them, we’d be here saying how poorly we’re developing and why are we not solving these problems.

          3. We’ll fix it. Although nobody can tell the future, my take is that we’re likely to save ourselves from these and not need any external help. Once again the amount of attention the threats are getting is a positive sign – we’re not sleepwalking towards it. Maybe we need to believe we’re sleepwalking towards it in order to panic us enough to fix it.

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    He Who Shrank: 1936 novelette by Hermann Hasse. Here is the Wiki on it:
    A world-celebrated professor reveals to his assistant, the tale’s narrator, that he has discovered that the visible universe at the largest scales corresponds to the microscopic universe at the smallest observed scales, the relations between universe’s planets suns, and star cluster being identical to the relations of electrons, atomic nuclei, and molecules. Rather than explore the universe at their own scale, the professor intends to explore the worlds endlessly nested within matter itself, which he argues by induction, must go on to ever smaller levels, and claims to have invented a substance, that once-applied will cause an individual to perpetually shrink. His assistant thinks him insane, but the professor, surprising the assistant, injects him with the substance, temporarily paralyzing the assistant and dooming him to eternally shrink ever smaller, through successively smaller worlds, each a subatomic particle of the previous one. (The injected substance, “Shrinx”, has engineered secondary properties such as oxygenating the blood and protecting against heat loss in space.) The professor will monitor the assistant’s fate through a device that receives his sense of sight and sound, and intends to eventually follow suit and set himself shrinking as well, although they would never meet again due to the infinitesimal chance of tracing the same path through the subatomic worlds.

    The assistant, sent as an involuntary scout, shrinks further and further, through the peril of being attacked by a microorganism, down to various worlds, inhabited by various beings who at their times scales have seen him approach for years or centuries, including intelligent gaseous beings, cave people, space-faring birdlike beings who flee to their moon to escape self-replicating machines who have overrun their planet and will likely go on spreading through the universe at that scale, and others the narrator mentions only in passing, of widely varying forms. One race of intangible beings teaches the narrator skills for controlling matter with thought. Though it lies within the power of some advanced races to halt his shrinking or grant him release from life (for he finds he has become immortal) none will interfere.

    The narrator eventually finds his way down to a blue planet where examined by scientists who underestimate his intelligence due to communication difficulties (he has become so accustomed to communicating by thought transference with more advanced races he has forgotten how to even attempt to speak vocally to leave some record for them, and they are too primitive to register his thoughts). He tires of them and escapes, making his way out of the city, subduing those who bar his way with waves of angry thought that render them unconscious. He makes his way to an isolated house outside of the city where a man is listening to a broadcast about the alien who touched down in Lake Erie, near Cleveland. He finds the individual has a more imaginative, receptive mind than the others encountered, and asks to dictate to the man his story.

    In the epilogue, the writer, a renowned writer of both “serious books” and “scores of short stories and books of the widely popular type of literature known as science fiction” gives a press interview announcing the publication of the story above for free, which he wrote in his own hand while under a voluntary induced trance. He asserts that the story is true, but grants that it may be received by many as fiction.

  100. Dan Wilkinson Avatar
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    I think all this virus is going to do is make people deal with grief. And hardly anyone will deal with it healthily, and then people will take out their emotions on other people. So people are going to be thinking about “wisdom” much less than before. And with the upcoming financial crisis, “political parties, religions, and nations” will be here to stay even more than before. And if these nanopeople were real, and were brainstorming plans, no one would even suggest creating an apocalyptic event because that would be so obviously unhelpful. Great story though x

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      I think, if anything, the pandemic is pushing everyone back into their silos. Whatever our worldview is, fear and uncertainty are making us double-down on it. Partisanship is up, xenophobia is up, hatred of the rich is up, religious people are praying more, rich celebrities are singing “Imagine”, we’re all just increasing the intensity of our beliefs.

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        “The virus” is not a suitable outgroup, and for a disaster of this magnitude people feel an intense need to blame an outgroup. So ways are contrived to blame people. “The virus is God’s judgement upon the sinful,” “the blood of COVID falls on Donald Trump’s hands,” etc. (Both of those are actual opinions I’ve heard.)

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    “Fuck,” I explained.

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    Tim, can you picture how the global economy will look in June this year, December this year and next year, spring 2021? I run an association in Gdansk, Poland, which is obviously supposed to change the world, but we don’t know whether to start developing city farms first or to start developing handicrafts in our district? Your imagination is stretched like a Chinese Olympic medalist in artistic gymnastics – I admire, I always read with bated breath! Greets!

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      I’m not Tim, but I think I have some to say: It will depend on our governments. Simple as that. If they act boldly and consistently, this will last less. Otherwise, will last longer. NewYorkTimes today has a very good interactive chart that shows the epidemy curve for different periods of social distancing, from 0 to 90 days. Very recomended! It is for the US, but the shape is the same for every country. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/25/opinion/coronavirus-trump-reopen-america.html

  103. Cam Snell Avatar
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    Great, thought-provoking and entertaining post, as always. Message is a bit negative though, I think humanity’s done pretty darn well over the last hundred years, culturally, legally, economically. We’re going through a bump in the road for sure but let’s stay optimistic and give trust where it’s due!

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      I’m very interested to know why you would throw in the word “legally” there. What legal advancements has humanity made in the last hundred years? It looks to me like we have taken steps back in that department.

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        Well, lynch mobs aren’t really a common thing anymore, and most of the developed world has — at least on the legal front — recognized the equal right of people of the same sex to marry. Likewise, every adult has a legal right to vote now, and attempting to stop someone from voting based on gender or race isn’t allowed, even if some politicians are at least occasionally accused of trying to do it in a roundabout way, anyway. I mean, overall, equal rights for everyone in the eyes of the law is, unfortunately, a fairly recent development, even in the developed world.

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        I will add the emergence of international law, that cluster bombs, napalm and chemical warfare are almost universally illegal, human rights law, gender equal pay legislation in most countries… I could go on but sure there’s enough here to not sniff at?

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      As I mentioned in another comment, the dinosaurs hung around for 65 million years. We’ll be immensely lucky if we make it to 300,000. That’s “pretty darn well”? Lasting 0.4% as long as the dinosaurs is pretty darn well? And those poor bastards didn’t have a chance with an asteroid. Just imagine how we would respond to an asteroid impact. Jeez Louise, it’d make this catastrophe look like the sniffles.

      Your measure of value is way different than mine.

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        We do measure value very differently, because I don’t measure it in number of years of existence. If (hyopethetically, although it’s not implausible) the dinosaurs spent more time suffering than being happy, then every year of their existence is another failure. They had no hope of improving anything, whereas we do.

        And we have some chance of spotting an asteroid in time to do something, which is already ahead of the dinosaurs.

        And we don’t know how long we’ll last, and it’s an unfair comparison anway (on top of all the above). “Dinosaurs” is like saying “mammals.”

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          Although I agree we should fight for our existence and make sure we dont perish as a specie. There is another way of looking at it. In the end nature has a kind of balance, if the predator doesn’t have enough food, his numbers will decline, and visa versa.

          What if (hypothetically, although it’s not implausible) the dinosaurs were really happy? For a big chunk of that 65 years they were the king of this planet, with food everywhere. Although more volcano’s than our time, but my point is, we always assume that our higher evolved consciousness is a better thing. But the irony is that this higher evolved consciousness also gives us a lot of suffering. We know from the day we’re born, some day we will die. Again assuming this concept isn’t familiar to dinosaurs/mammals.

          When the asteroid hit, there wasn’t months/years of anxiety that it was coming (=suffering). When the sky turned grey, and most of the food disappeared, there probably was suffering, but besides the changing environment that couldn’t provide what it first did, they couldn’t grasp the whole concept of it being world wide. Since they’ve had times before when the food was scarce, they just moved around hoping the next valley would bring stuff like it used to. So hopeful, instead of dreadful. And without the enormous amount of stress of this idea, this concept, that their entire species would cease to exist.

          Even worse, knowing they would cease to exist cause they prioritized the wrong stuff.

  104. SonySantos Avatar
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    So sad that you forgot your smartphone to take some photos… ????????

  105. grafofilia Avatar
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    This is the perfect contemporary adaptation of hermetic texts. Reminded me a lot to the writing style of George Gurdjieff.

  106. Raquel Avatar
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    Our conduct individually have a much greater impact in others, in the collective, than we give it credit for. The story is great and show the causal sollution to the challenge humanity is facing today. I’m from Brazil and connected to this precious idea you are putting foward in this post. Thank you for sharing!

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    Nice story, Tim. The 1st poetic piece about the covid I have read so far. It won’t change anything, as Lenon’s Imagine song didn’t, but it’s nice, as the song. Congrats.

  108. Miko Avatar
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    Not your usual type of post, but I appreciated it.

    Also, lay off the magic mushrooms Tim.

  109. ann Avatar
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    Tim, thank you for sharing your wild imagination. Amusing as it is, I actually think it’s quite educational. If you build this story into a game, or, perhaps a virtual reality simulation, it might keep the vastly science-deficient students’ interest in learning about the world we live in. I look forward to your next post.

  110. alex Avatar
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    Made me want to re-read Liu Cixin’s “Ball Lightening”

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    Great creative story, thanks Tim!

  112. John Doe Avatar
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    Tiny humans flicked the virus in someones mouth? Cool story bro. I was expecting an informative post about the human behavior that has been going on during this pandemic. The need for some people to horde, social gather, laissez-faire attitudes, etc.

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      Don’t worry, that’s coming. The next post of The Story of Us is coming in a few weeks at most, and we’ll no doubt talk about the implications of the pandemic then.

  113. Ayaz Sayeed Avatar
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    What a fun and creative perspective! thanks for the read Tim

  114. Ayaz Sayeed Avatar
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    Love this perspective!! Thanks for the uplifting read

  115. Josephine Sun Avatar
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    Great read. Would you consider revisiting the topic of extraterrestrial life? (watch Unacknowledged on Netflix!)

    Maybe the Fermi paradox doesn’t describe our situation. Would love to know if there have been any changes to your view since.

  116. Marc Vinson Avatar
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    You brilliant, lovely human.

    Not to be selfish, but if you go back, can you get your new friends to adjust, or at least signal, about the market. Some of us were hoping to retire one day in this layer…

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    Tim, thanks for this post. Reading the comments, the problem seems unchanged over the ages; it’s not that humans don’t have access to the wisdom to move to a higher place. It’s that almost no one seems able to hear it when it’s told to them. Your writing style is too dated, or you misspelled something, it’s not “deep enough” to represent anything really important, or surely you must want to discuss their aliens theory instead.

    Reading the comments, I’m reminded of the scene in T2, when teenage John Connor is helping the T100 fix the car at some nameless rest stop. Nearby, children play guns, shooting each other, shouting “I got you, you’re dead,” all unknowing in the shadow of what’s coming, kicked dust drifting in the twilight. We watch comprehension begin to dawn across young John’s face, and he turns to the the Terminator and says, with quiet resignation, “We’re not gonna make, are we? People, I mean.” The Terminator responds, with mechanical emotionlessness, “It is in your nature to destroy yourselves.”

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      What if that was the plan though? What if an advanced race placed us here, knowing already our species has the tendency to, sooner or later, kill it self?

  118. B F Avatar
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    How could you breath?

  119. Magic Avatar
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    So. Much. Delight. *sighs blissfully* Not just at the creativity, the deliciously quirky individuality, the intellect. Not just at the seriously cute fable, the Wisdom, the Hope. But that you could so beautifully articulate what I’ve clumsily tried to express over the past few days (you were clearly well ahead of me *smiles*). This may just be the big enough, bad enough, hardcore slam to wind back to establishing solid foundations based on core values. Integrity, Kindness, Accountability, Fairness, and the like are not such lofty principles after all. Gratitude to you.

    (Oh, and to others: Divisive commentary about atheists is a terrible way of promoting one’s faith! *grins*) x

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      This response deserves pinning at the top.

      Add petty gripes, sci-fi ‘who-effing-cares’ nitpicking, and total dystopian accusations of ‘not going far enough.’

      FFS, be constructive, celebratory, thoughtful, supportive, and kind. Otherwise, no one really cares what you think.

  120. noone Avatar
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    The ending was not good. The rest was ok.

  121. Chris Haviland Avatar

    Tim’s original published piece used COVID-19 as the name of the virus, so I thought I’d jump in and try to correct him this morning, but looks like he beat me to it. Needless to say at this point, but the disease is called COVID-19 (2019’s latest model of the coronavirus diseases that are released yearly) and the virus is SARS-CoV-2. It’s basically the SARS version 2 upgrade – less deadly to the individual than SARS version 1 (ie: the average healthy person is a bit less likely to die of SARS-2 than SARS-1 from what we see of the statistics so far), but version 2 is far more stealthy…. Its improved strategy can technically kill more people than version 1 not by being stronger but by simply staying secret for a longer time. In fact it’s helping itself, because a virus wants to live and reproduce, like all life forms, and it can’t do that if it kills off its host too quickly.

    On the political front, Horton the Elephant didn’t hear the WHO as quickly as it should have. (Pun intended, but maybe a stupid one.) But it’s loud and clear now, and the nation (and the world) needs to use this as a precedent for faster response times, stronger and clearer communication, non-panic control measures, and stronger virtualization requirements for businesses and families. Maybe some toilet paper therapy sessions as well. This is not the first time a pandemic has called worldwide shock (see 1918’s H1N1, aka the Spanish Flu, which spread largely unchecked and was many times the nightmare this is) and it won’t be the last. It is the way viruses have always worked on this planet since long before humans were around. The inevitable: Death, Taxes, Viruses.

    I do wish all the bipartisan posturing and insults and blaming would cease. The two major U.S. political parties with all their cheerleaders on the low end and chair-leaders on the high end really need to STOP casting insults, pointing fingers, and finding clever ways of using this crisis to the advantage of their own ideology instead of to the immediate advantage of the population. And all those who are drunk on the KoolAid of political narratives and seeking confirmation bias by voicing these opinions (left and right) on forums need to stop also. This social behavior is exasperating the response problem, not solving it.

  122. Alex Haapamäki Avatar
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    Amazing story. As far as I understand, you think the solution to the worlds problems is getting more people into reading personal development and content like your content (basically raising the collective consciousness of the human population so that the world can have more people spend their time and energy into solving problems rather than creating them), and if that is the case, I agree with you.

    I do have a strategy that I have never seen anyone talk about on how to make this happen at a mass scale that I think would work very well, and I am already doing that with the means, skills and time I have, but I’d love to discuss my ideas with you and make things happen even faster since you are way ahead in the game than I am. In short, it’s about combining peoples interests that they already have with personal development, and then later funneling them into high quality personal development. In a way funneling peoples natural momentum into even more momentum towards good things. This needs to be done with as many interests as possible so in the end there needs to be a lot of people doing this. It’s kind of difficult to explain it well in a short way (I’m sure you are more than familiar with this!), but I’d be happy to explain it further, the world really needs these types of ideas on a mass scale ASAP.

    If your motivation is the same as mine, which is to help the world in the most impactful way you can think of, I do really believe this could be something worth looking into. I am still a small player and unknown, but this is a strategy that I wish bigger players like you, Tony Robbins, Leo from Actualized.org etc would consider since I actually believe it would work more efficiently than what you guys are currently doing (and yes I know how cocky or arrogant that might sound, but still..! ), and I have started to prove that this is the case with my project Learn Beach Volleyball Fast which is finally gaining more momentum and making my theory become real.

    I’ll stop here, I know this is a weird comment, but if it caught your eye, let me know – the world needs sharing of ideas between big thinkers. In case you can’t email me based on my disqus username, my contact info is on both of my websites.

    // Alex Haapamäki, creator of http://www.startwithhappiness.net and http://www.learnbeachvolleyballfast.com

    1. Justin L Avatar
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      Yeah, but will it make money? No? Good luck.

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    I believe your story.
    There’s especially truth in this:
    “Short of an alien attack, it is the one thing that could make all humans in your world feel like they’re on the same team against a common enemy. The first and most crucial step on the road to a long-lasting species is the epiphany that you truly are a single team, alone in a dark and dangerous universe.”

  124. Montse Avatar
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    An awesome read, as always. Thank you for sharing it with us in such a difficult time we are living, it is refreshing and it opens new perspectives.

  125. caue Avatar
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    wished this and john titor were real.

  126. Josephine Sun Avatar
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    We’ve already been gifted technologies from more advanced civilizations! They are being hoarded and hidden by a most powerful, stealth organization beyond reach of political power.

    I’ve been wondering why Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Richard Branson don’t pool together funds to uncover the Area 51 secrets & technologies.

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      With the fiction theme already here: I recently read a short story about an alternate history where a secret organization got a ton of modern day technology gifted by aliens. The organisation slowly released the inventions and got rich in the process, but after decades, they ran out of them, the world was built with expectations of ever-improving technology, but nobody actually understood how any of it worked. In a way, that’s the developed world now, given overspecialisation and good marketing. Things are easy to use but super hard to improve.

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    The strategy these small people picked to solve the problems in our world is pretty suboptimal.

    If there is an advanced civilization that watches over ours then their best strategy is to provide new technology to the people whose values are the most adjacent to the direction they want us to nudge.

    This way the strategy for us is be a good boy for the more advanced race and this way you stay at the top of the tech companies hierarchy and therefore everybody will listen to what you say.

    This could be the secret behind success of Elon Musk.

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      I guess, Elon Musk regularly goes into the next level where time is running 100 times faster than here and has enough time there to think his deep thoughts without distractions by Twitter. That is why he can come up with all these amazing new things nobody bothered to think about yet and still find time to reply on Twitter.

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        Except when he buys into crackpot, now right wing theories re malaria drugs, causing POTUS to divert resources down the drain. Or forces his employees to work against their will. Or doesn’t donate a dime (so far) to assist with COVID-19. Musk’s next level is up his own rear end.

  128. Pavel Šimon Avatar

    I envy you that wonderful trip to unknown. How we can help them to help us?

  129. disqus_ed0wglH5lD Avatar
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    Nice little story read! 🙂

    However, how the atoms that make up your body can still exist in a tiny form in the tiny world, and coexist next to the same but larger sized atoms of the virus, is beyond my knowledge. 😉

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      Careful! I wrote a similar comment two hours earlier and got an unpleasant response about how “This is not a physics lesson” from a cranky old guy who hypocritically complains about negativity in the comments section, then turns around and spreads his own negativity. If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing.

      Anyway… I, at least, applaud your comment! Be a free thinker!

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      The size of atoms is not hard-coded as a law of physics; instead, it is caused by the interplay of forces between point particles (the classical view) or something something wave functions (the quantum physics view). I suppose the process that makes you smaller changes the fundamental constants of the universe within a part of space (and/or time), so, for example, the electrostatic forces could be greater, causing a tighter electron orbit around the nucleus, effectively making the atom smaller.

      There’s lots of issues here with continuity along the divide between the tiers, with stability of atoms, with fine tuning so that basic chemistry can still work, etc. So, suspension of disbelief, I guess?

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      One possibility is, that our knowledge is not accurate. Maybe we only think that atoms and particles are fundamental, and it is only simplification, and world (universe) is more complex for our knowledge.
      How you would explain 3D world to 2D person? How 4D person could explain their world to us, And 5D, 6D person…
      Or how you would explain mobile phone to inventor of phone line communication? Please do not be static – fixed in one world.

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        That dimensions analogy is widespread, but not very good. Mathematicians (some of them) deal with these concepts daily. It is even possible to get a kind of “mind’s eye” for multiple dimensions. You may not “see” multiple dimensions, but you can work out, say, how densely you could pack high dimensional spheres in a sufficiently large container. My classmate created a 4D Rubik’s cube model. If anything, this analogy is helpful for understanding the amount of practice we have with our everyday world, and how hard it is to build it up with something new. But it sure is reachable.

        A more fruitful discussion might be how much we need to care about the “explanations”. If you tell a story, not everything has to make perfect sense, as long as inconsistencies are justified by some other purpose – communicating a moral or screwing with the reader’s mind, for example. But at some point, it gets out of hand and somebody calls bull on the whole construct.

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    This is a cute story but what was i supposed to learn here? I’m not in power to help legislate the fight against the corona! it’s all the irresponsible people who are not shutting the borders and those who are still out there thinking they can go to the bar!

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    Hey Tim. Big fan. But.. remember your post from when Trump was elected basically saying “What’s the worst that could happen?”… So him being in charge in a global crisis situation. Pretty bad.

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      …explain? Under Trump, COVID spread across the country, sure. But not a lot of other countries across the world did any better. I’m not convinced things would have been any different with anyone else as President. Maybe that’s just me though.

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        Similarly to how Tim is eating his words re: Trump, you’ll be eating these come (probably) May, when this thing peaks.

        Good luck!

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          …Again, I’m not saying things ain’t bad. They’re bad, alright. I’m saying things would have been just as bad with anyone else as President.

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            But that’s where we disagree. Watch as this gap becomes bigger and bigger. Not because of some unusual extenuating circumstance. But because of Trump and his absolutely farcical handling of this catastrophe:
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4c1b3f770df9e59b3d4cc482d98801fc97ca8d757857665e40e0dc11d77cb258.png

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            Wow, a lot changes in about 3 months. I don’t think it’s coincidental that one of Trump’s buddies is ruling over the country that’s doing second worst: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/feb139f35d20d5741619a41fc3cf18a7edb72017eb58846197823a3d8330556a.png

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        How’re you feeling about this these days?

  132. dado007 Avatar
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    But the most important question is: does the small world have their own Leonardo DiCaprio in their small Inception, or do they watch our Inception on their small TVs?

  133. bb101 Avatar
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    If you enjoyed this story, pick up a copy of Cixin Liu’s Wandering Earth. One of the short stories is about a human microcivilization inhabiting Earth after a solar flash.

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    that was fun to read, is it real?

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    The plot twist to this story, of course, is that Tim was a silent carrier of SARS-CoV-2.
    When they brought him down to their size, this obviously reduced the sizes of the viruses in his body, which were now able to (and did) infect the entire population in the 1/10,000-size world.

    What goes up comes down…

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      I am amused.

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      M. Night shamalamadingdong is not accepting unsolicited scripts at this time and you will not be compensated in any way for any future production bearing any resemblance to your submission whatsoever.

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    I was pretty disappointed, since I started reading this incorrectly assuming you were talking about a real event. All of the storytelling fancy was lost on me, at this time.

    As far as humanity uniting over a barely lethal plague…fat chance. There are more people rooting for the virus than there are actively trying to stop it. I severely doubt anyone here is willing to do what it would take to really equalize human opportunity, what with the social controls, increased taxes, and reduction or elimination of luxury commodities, among other things. Not to mention that zero attempts to do so in the past have succeeded.

    Humanity has more wealth than ever and it’s still never enough. We’re arguing morality and equality against an inexorable tide of scarcity and reproduction. You can manufacture consent; you can justify literally anything, however you want, as long as someone else will accept it; you can poison the whole planet with radiation and then say it was the best option, or you were just doing what you were told, or someone made you do it, or whatever. This mind-frickery is ceaseless. No one can be right or wrong except by some arbitrary model of justice, and everyone has their own. Oh, to reconcile 7 billion realities into one. What a chore.

    Everywhere on Earth sucks, for some reason, even if the reason isn’t the same everywhere. Labor is undervalued and populations are too high for their own desired standards of living. I am part of the exception to work during the COVID-19 lockdown because people still need to buy frozen pizzas, ice cream, frozen baked goods, indecent amounts of paper products, bottled water, bottled and canned soda, and all the rest of the boneyard that is “essential” during a time of crisis in a country where everyone supposedly has fresh clean water pumped into their showers, toilets, and (obviously completely unused) kitchens. What a hellscape!

    And since two of the three people in our apartment are cleared to work, and the third is a student who is telecommuting, any relief checks are going straight to the bank as extra pocket cash, because money is infinite, fiat, and meaningless so the national debt might as well be 50 trillion dollars—just as long as the stock market is keeping everyone in their castes.

    Blah blah blah, eventually we all die and it will be as though nothing ever existed.

    The chaos has broken me into a fine mist of pieces that only occasionally resembles any of the people that I used to be, and I find it incredibly hard to empathize with your savior complex right now. I find it incredibly hard to empathize because it would be hella dandy if humanity could get behind anything at all universally, but I just don’t see how that could ever emerge from anything that is happening in society right now. I wanted to save the world, but all I discovered is an infinitely justifiable bullshit engine.

    We didn’t start the fire, and a hummingbird isn’t going to put it out. The hummingbird died in that fire, Tim. Orpheus looked back. Socrates and Hamilton chose their deaths. Bernie Sanders is a classist ideologue, preaching rhetoric about “Not me. Us.” to a crowd of people holding signs bearing his name, who hasn’t figured out that you can’t go back in time and fix injustice with money and race quotas. All of humanity’s achievements can fit in the palm of your hands via a cellphone, including the truth about what it costs to mine and process the materials that made it. All signs point to a futile struggle that always ends in failure. Humanity is not 10 billion more chances away from success; it’s 10 billion more chances away from running out of chances. This cannot go on forever. It will not go on forever.

    If we can’t keep our pants on for a worse flu, we are doomed merely by the possibility of a meteor, or an actual plague, or nuclear warfare, or climate change, or, hell, even regular warfare.

    Yours is a singular perspective, no matter how much it resonates with others. You are not them. They are not you. The best you could ever hope for would be to accelerate others toward “their own”, “better” understandings. But even still, we’re arguing about what “better” even is. And who gets to decide.

    Do you think your version of reality is any more legitimate than anyone else’s? I do not assume you to hold an objective stance on morality. And if there is no absolute morality, then you spend your time playing pedant to a cold, dark, apathetic universe for a crowd of “high-minded” strangers who undeniably fall helplessly short of the humility it would take to even begin an unheated disagreement with another human in person, nonetheless change someone else’s mind about global solidarity.

    Things are bad. Social progress lags the economy by thousands of miles, and our current economic system is irreconcilably unstable—pushing social progress that much farther away. Politics serves the ownership economy. You’re going to need a lot more than some artistically veiled rhetoric to fix any of that.

    As soon as you have a plan, I’m here to help. Until then, I’ll just read whatever you post. Maybe I’ll comment on some of it according to whatever mood that version of me happens to be in.

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      Wow, man. And to think of what you could have done with all the time spent arguing for limitations.

      Chill.

      This could literally be the worst of all possible worlds. And yet, every single morning you have a choice: do you try to make it better or do you try to make it worse?

      Things being “bad” does not necessitate one’s having a bad time.

  137. Peter James Avatar
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    I find it interesting that we can imagine a benevolent being with higher knowledge than us; a being that enacts something painful and even deadly for the supposed greater good. Yet one of the primary reasons atheists can’t stomach a belief in God is “how can a good and all powerful God allow so much pain and suffering?” Except in your story the higher being doesn’t take on our form and experience the pain for himself like Jesus claims he did. I get that yours is a fiction, but still… very interesting that you imagined a personal higher being with purpose. Maybe it’s not as fictional as you think?

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      I find it interesting that you took this specific opportunity to identify common features between this made up story and another, though much older, made up story. The former could easily have been an influence of the latter, as all artistic works are iterative at some level of abstraction.

      F!@k the “greater good”. You Chaotic Good zealots would kill or imprison everyone who disagrees with you in order to seed the planet with the “right” people. Because goodness is somehow permanent and apart from the humans that made it all up.

      And if “God” (what a name, tho) does exist, f&%k him (her?) too. Leave it to a bunch of humans to justify the benevolence of a sky demon by dramatically warping reality to bend chaos into a shape that makes sense of it all. You have to have one hell of a brain for that kind of mental gymnastics, which is awesome—the not-awesome part is the part where it’s spent wasted on ancient, patriarchal dogma.

      You’re probably a good person that is being held back by ideology. You can do good without God. Just accept that it’s unknowable and your faith is no better in God’s hands than your brothers’ and sisters’. We are all we have, and then we die—very probably, according to all natural science.

      I will fight to defend my made up idea of human life with all of the vigor of a mouse, all of the attention span of a carrot, and all of the certainty of a doubt.

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      It’s not a main reason for me. A malevolent, incompetent or uncaring God is a perfectly valid concept. The actual reason is that through understanding the laws of nature, we see that most of the world can work perfectly fine without God. To believe in God without denying the accumulated scientific knowledge that has been independently verified all over the planet is more like deism than Christianity – God created the world, but that’s it. And at that point you have to ask yourself – why bother?

  138. Johnny Ilca Avatar
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    Cute little story! Loved the new perspective

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    Such effort is appreciated! I hope everybody knows by now that reality is a fractal.

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    Kinda reminds me of the “Horton Hears a Who” premise. It’s great to read comments agreeing with the need for an epiphany. But if many of you are like I am, we’ve all had epiphanies, really earth shaking moments which may change how we behave for a time, and then as the reality of daily living, surviving, feeding families, and paying bills returns, the epiphany recedes into the background. Maybe the duration of this situation, and if some projection models are correct, the reintroduction of times like these as the virus recedes and looms again, will eventually reinforce the wisdom which comes with an epiphany, so that the behavior that follows–helping one another, random acts of kindness, saying and showing we care– becomes habit.

  141. Michael R. Geisen Avatar

    Thanks for another fun, thought-provoking post, Tim!

  142. Abhinav Chandraker Avatar
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    Woah. And that was an incredible read.

  143. Patchrik Rane Avatar
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    I appreciate that the subtitle is “a highly unexpected turn of events.”

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    “Ant-Man” meets “Watchmen,” but with slightly more optimism and less cynicism than “Watchmen.”

    Shrinkage stories always lead me to wonder what happens to the atoms inside the body of the person who’s been shrunk. Atoms’ properties must necessarily change when the atoms are forcibly scrunched in that way. The universe has certain inviolable forces and constants that it would be unwise to jigger with.

    Me, I think being shrunk to the size of a quark would plunge me into a hell-realm where there’s nothing but violent, buffeting mists and tornadoes of color… and the horrible sound of reality roaring and shrieking.

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      It could be assumed that rather than shrinking the person and his atoms directly, that person’s consciousnesses was moved to a different body made for the smaller scale.

  145. Mihail Valchev Avatar
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    Don’t underestimate stupidity mate. Stupidity is like entropy – no mater how long it will take, at the end it will desintegrate everything. There is no hope for this tier. But it’s a pretty nice try!

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    Tim, have you been in touch with John Vervaeke? Jordan Hall? Daniel Schmachtenberger?

    Like Elon Musk discovered, you have a way of scaling imagination in such a way that you can communicate between levels of intelligence that normally can’t see each other. Even though they can be reached, they often don’t fully understand how confused they are, but the connection starts a chain reaction that eventually moves some critical gears into place, and some portion of those infected with your engineered mind virus memes (as mammoth as they our to our scale), and stuff starts to unfold.

    Too many of the people who get the ideas engaged think their conception of the relationship between things survives the scale shift, which you demonstrate to be foolish in this remarkable piece.

    I’ll be in touch later, but for now, know that I love your stuff, and hope you keep your eye out for tiny lasers trying to catch your attention .

  147. Stephen Chibuike Avatar
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    This reminded me of the episode where Rick and Morty had to shrink into a different world in their battery.

    Nice write up. Very creative.

  148. David Durden Avatar
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    If this were true, I’d say it’s time to wage war on the little people. Such acts of naked aggression will no longer be tolerated. The lives of our seniors are not games to be played with. May the urine of a thousand dogs and the fire of a single candlestick rain down upon their heads!

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      Is this to be taken seriously?

  149. Reader Avatar
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    Did I tell cells are kardashev-3 megastructures?

    Viruses is how you control the asi without letting it know

  150. Justen Avatar
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    Other than the cool imagery of the size of a virus, what was I supposed to learn?

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      First off, kudos to the benevolent voting system and our swell pals here on WBW’s Discus commentary.

      Secondly, you could have read some of the other comments. A few new ones since yours also help describe what’s going on.

      But to answer your question myself, I don’t think there’s anything to learn. This is just a fairy-tale designed to entertain. If you have read Tim’s other work, there’s really nothing new here. If not, then instead of looking for a special lesson in this fiction, I would recommend you simply read his other work. Particularly, “The Story of Us” is the big one that this little ditty has the most to do with.

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        Thanks for your response. I read it again and decided the theme is that the virus is supposed to bring the world together. I missed that the first time. Hard as I try to read every one of Tim’s words, I can’t help but skim. He’s so damn wordy, and I’m not here to be entertained so much as to absorb some of his intellect. And that theme was tucked into a single sentence that I guess I missed. I agree, “The Story of Us” is germane, and ????, aside from the fact that it’s suuuuuuuper long.

  151. Andrew Streit Avatar
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    The answer is easy, we live more modest lives but with grandiose noble goals that benefit the majority of life on earth. You first Tim, I’m afraid.

  152. Robby Avatar
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    This is really similar to that one episode of Rick and Morty ft. Stephen Colbert — enjoyed it a lot!

  153. EvaR Avatar
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    I was excited to see a new post too; thanks for this…enjoyed it very much! Stay well!

  154. Justin L Avatar
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    Unfortunately, either wisdom is no match for our “political parties, religions, and nations” or our “political parties, religions, and nations” are far more powerful than Mother Nature intended.

    Only ignorant, terrified naked apes would make a dozen different kinds of death leaderboards for cases and deaths from a disease by country. It matters which country they’re from, not which continent, environment, or climate.

    Sadly, I think we’re doomed. We’re this much of a mess and no one’s even trying to cause trouble yet.

    Wait until the Russians realize this is the perfect time to throw a nuke our way.

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      Nah, Putin’s laughing too hard and patting himself on the back

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      Interesting take, how to turn a pandemic into the Death Olympics.

      Too soon? Probably. We have got to find some fantastical and whimsical ways to frame this, while not blunting the impact of actual deaths.

      What would bum me out the most from all of this, is if we find a way to avert disaster and simply return to debating Trump and Brexit. If we do this, I’m taking myself out of the game.

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    There’s an episode of Always Sunny where one of the characters tries to be high minded about a topic, and the guys keep interjecting with fart noises. No matter how much wisdom tries to spread, there’s always some boob that wants to rip ass behind it, and I swear that’s American society. I wish natural selection was faster sometimes…

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      Seems to be speeding up with CoVid19. Think about the poor Covidiots who are still denying/minimizing the virus.

  156. Nora Avatar
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    brill

  157. Dude Avatar
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    Thank you so much for this. Yes it’s fun, but more importantly it’s highly illuminating as an analogy for the true reality of our existence and the current crisis we’re facing. If enough people eventually realize this, we will be able to tip the scales away from selfishness and toward care for others, to ultimately contain this virus and emerge as a stronger and more enlightened collective.

  158. Karson K Avatar
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    I wanna know what these evil bastards did to the dinosaurs.

  159. Peter Lattimore Avatar
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    doesn’t anyone ever sweep the sidewalk where you live?

  160. Barney Sperlin Avatar
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    A few days ago a sci-fi story I wrote was published by TERSE, on the net. Look for “Used Planet” on the March 21, 2020 page. It had the same theme as your essay above. Glad we think alike!

    https://tersejournal.com

  161. multilingualmob Avatar
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    We are all students of SARS-CoV-2. And the world, our classroom.
    Stay well and do good in school!

  162. Liu Chou Kee Peter Avatar
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    Are we still trying to beat the earth to death in order to produce what we need? I suggest that the whole world should stop for 1 year every 7 years letting the earth to heal.

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    I am SO glad to receive this post. Your stream of consciousness writing seems to have finally been awakened again by this crisis. Mind you, you may have been working away behind the scenes on a masterpiece, what would I know. How do I know that this situation has somehow inspired you though? Because me too.I am so glad because I used to absolutely love reading your pieces. I also loved your TED talk, by the way. Must have been shitting yourself, but worth it – really inspiring, I’ve already done my work for the day today in half an hour and now I can feel justified in binge watching black mirror as long as I want.This pandemic will awaken creativity again and may even be a renaissance for the publishing industry. I know when I am allowed down to Tesco’s I am stockpiling cheap books. Small blessings I know, but we have to look on the bright side. Cheers. Suppose I should read the post now really…just got a bit over excited seeing that there was one, LOL

  164. Former Fan Avatar
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    What the actual fuck?

    So in this story, a group of people decides to murder millions of innocent people in the hopes that a better world would rise from the ashes of this one…

    …and the story portrays that group as *the good guys*?!?!?

    Tim, how did you not ask yourself “Am I the Baddie?” when writing this? The fun worldbuilding doesn’t make up for the fact that you’re cheering on the fictional murder of our grandparents.

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      Me against my brothers; my brothers and me against my cousins; my cousins, my brothers, and me against [a pandemic causing virus]. Tim isn’t cheering on a grandparent killing virus (and it’s killing more than grandparents). He is pointing out that if there is anything good at all to take away from the current situation, maybe it is that humanity will pull itself up a few rungs on the psych spectrum and not wind up destroying itself. Nothing like a common enemy to unite the masses.

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        Well put????

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          still, Tim’s gonna wind up with more ecofacist fans than I’d imagine he wants with this one.

      2. Justin L Avatar
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        Fortunately, people are using the common enemy to unite the masses. Unfortunately, those masses are countries and the common enemies are the scapegoats.

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      Yeah, see, here is the thing. Of the 7 billion people on the planet, the collective choices we make are killing every freaking other thing on the planet and we can’t be bothered to notice.

      You do know that dying is natural, right? And usually happens to grandparents first.

      I’m not saying that I like it, or that I “want” it to happen, but I do think it is odd that I forgot that no person has ever ever yet lived forever. This virus isn’t callous, any more than your body is if you mistreat it and it gets sick. We are junkies asking how Tim could possibly let us suffer now that we are out of heroin. How dare he remind me of the tracks in my arm. How insensitive of him.

      Folks, check to see if you are hankering to take the red pill and wake up or the blue pill and hit the snooze button before you look for “baddies” out in the wider world.

      “HEY now, why are you giving me the bill?!? This is supposed to go on my grand-children’s tab.”

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      Like so many things in this crisis…it’s a balancing act. It is possible to choose 1 million dead over a billion dead and not be a baddie.

  165. Lexi Mize Avatar
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    Fun. Tolerable length. Do this again.

  166. RogerG Avatar
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    There are still too many members of our tribe who demand the right to take what is not theirs, to blame others for problems they created, and who expect to receive more than they give. What if they all died off from the virus? Or were at least sidelined and banned from the control room?

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      The control room is the problem. Its size, its tools.. people that manages to get into all have the same profile: they want to rule. So, no fun anymore. People outside that control room, in continuous expansion from too long now, need to realise this and push back in, to seriously shrink its capacity and power to reduce its danger and the threat to peacefull people, loving to engage in free agreements and good neighbourhood with others.

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      As I read the detractors of western civilization here in these comments (and believe you me, I also know this insanity had to change), I am surprised at how many seemingly intelligent people feel helpless at the hands of a sinister “them” who is exploiting the innocent “us.” We vote them in with our purchasing habits of iPhones, Disney movies, hotdogs, big screen TVs and sports cars/suvs. We are a Wall-E world.

      I imagine a whiny voice: “Stop making plastic seem so sexy y’all, I can’t stop reaching for the glitter bomb.” I’m don’t wish anyone ill, and yes I am privileged, but come on, everyone wants to be just rich enough to be lazy.

      I’m not sure why we can’t see that the “them” we are cursing is our reflection in the mirror. I see it, don’t you?

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    The “common enemy” was one of my first thoughts about the worldwide COVID-19 struggle. Thank you for addressing this and also making it a very fun story by tying it into other areas of thought, like scale factor and tiny worlds and tiny physics. I cried excitedly at “it is the one thing that could make all humans in your world feel like they’re on the same team against a common enemy. The first and most crucial step on the road to a long-lasting species is the epiphany that you truly are a single team, alone in a dark and dangerous universe.” The best part is the coronavirus is not a human enemy. WWII had the power to glue at least the US together, but by alienating countries across the sea. Now we have no one to dehumanize, because our enemy is a mindless force of nature in a protein capsule, hardly considered alive. I haven’t been reading the news enough to know if the trick has been working. Also I’m so gullible that I believed your story until a little after you were shrunken, when I was excited but beginning to worry about you. Please stay well.

  168. Lisa Mattsson Avatar
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    i loved this. maybe im dumb not to know the obvious answer but was this somewhat of a real hallucination?

  169. Klaus Weizenbier Avatar
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    Super duper wie immer! Machen Se weiter!

  170. james Avatar
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    Someone please animate this

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      Excellent idea, maybe with hybrid WBW characters

    2. Ryan Avatar
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      @kurzgesagt

  171. cryingpenguin Avatar
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    How would it work if there were a tier above us? Because we aren’t a village, we’re an entire world.
    also imagine the tier above us… they’re probably still bacteria in an ocean

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      listen to the audiobook Many Lives, Many Masters
      by Brian Weiss. I think that is how the larger… or smaller world is like

  172. Sam Randolph Avatar
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    Very timely, Tim. The ravages of the COVID-19 pandemic have really laid bare the failure of our current political and economic system (particularly here in the US).

    I’m curious to see what your proposed solution in your series is, though; because, if anything, the responsibility for this crisis lies at the feet of economic liberalism (which is to say free-market capitalism). If we are really “all in this together,” then why should we only provide for people’s basic needs if they can afford to pay for them? Why should the 1% be able to acquire whatever they want while contributing nothing, whereas the 99% have to work long hours in order to “earn” it? Why should we allow wealthy elites to buy elections, totally subverting the basic premise of democracy? All of the hollow excuses for these daily injustices have been shown to be lies.

    The only way to come together, as you and I both agree we need to do, is to abandon the principles of the market and start valuing people’s needs over profitability. We are all humans, we deserve access to food, shelter, healthcare, and the other necessities of life regardless of our gender identity, race, nationality, religion, physical fitness, or ability to pay. We, the masses, need solidarity for each other if we are to overthrow the system of oppression that currently controls our world. Let’s work together to build a world, and an international economic order, that works for all of us, not just a few billionaires. An injury to one is an injury to all!

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      Ah, but does this extend to everyone on the planet, or just western people like us? Because at the moment, around 30,000 people die every day of hunger – a daily death count greater than the entire Covid-19 death count so far. And if you do extend it to everyone and equalise wealth, then if you divide the earth’s GDP by it’s population, you get around US$10k per person per annum. And who is going to work in the factories creating all the stuff we can buy for ridiculously cheap because they earn so little? No one, so the prices will be way higher, and our income way lower. Um, no, “we” don’t want that. “We” want a share of what the obscenely rich have. But to the vast majority of the world, “we” are obscenely rich. “We” don’t want to give that up anymore than the ultra-rich do. And thus why there is an endless fight for a greater share of the wealth. Always has been, always will be. The ultra-rich aren’t going to give it up without a fight, so we have to fight for it if we want more. And the extremely poor want more of what we have, and “we” aren’t in a hurry to give it up and give it to them either.

      Don’t get me wrong, I am cheering for you. The purpose of this post is partly because I think it is really helpful to understand why the world is so, if you want to succeed at fight against it. For the last 40 years, ever since Reagan, the ultra-rich have been winning, and “we” have been losing. Tax rates of businesses and wealthy people have been chipped away bit by bit for 40 years, all under the con of “creates jobs”, which has caused less jobs, worse working conditions and pay, more expensive essential services, huge government debt, and a massively increased wealth gap. The ultra-rich have succeeded in creating the frame that socialism is bad, and thus the majority of Americans think that everything that will actually help them, is a terrible thing.

      That all said, I agree with you that this virus could possibly succeed in massively shifting the common attitude of the western world a large chunk to the left. However, the ultra-rich will be coming up with very clever ideas on how to spin it so the shift is instead to the right. I am curious to see what happens.

      1. Sam Randolph Avatar
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        I’m glad to see that we understand each other. While it’s true that the vast majority of the world has it even worse off than the average Westerner (that’s colonialism for you), I don’t believe that means that creating a more equal world, with a more fair distribution of access to material goods and services, would necessitate us all becoming poor. The reason I say this is because GDP just isn’t a very good way of tracking economic health (rather than financial wealth). If we instead look at things in terms of resources (e.g. food, housing, labor, etc.), it’s clear that there’s actually more than enough to go around. But, given the specter of climate change on the horizon, it’s true that people used to the abundance of an upper-middle class Western lifestyle may have to make some sacrifices for the future of humanity (such as not having everyone personally transport themselves in small, private vehicles and not being able to eat unlimited quantities of beef). So I’m in agreement with you on that point.

        Whether the people can shift the narrative to expose the greed and corruption that underlies our economic system is the question. I know those in power are trying as hard as they can to spin it in their favor, but when they complain more about the stock market plummeting than about people dying due to COVID-19, it’s hard to justify their position. I guess we’ll have to wait and see! It will be particularly interesting to see what sort of bizarre compromise centrist liberals will propose between socialism and barbarism.

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          Yep, we are pretty much on the same page. It will be interesting to see what happens. Nice chatting, and all the best to you!

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          Well, here we are 2 years later, and the rich have won even more. Covid has resulted in a humungous shift of wealth to the rich.

      2. Andrew Streit Avatar
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        How did you arrive at GDP and distribution? US dollars. Isn’t it also true, we pay more than anyone else on the planet for basic goods? Also this is all in the framework of capitalist traditional economics. Capitalism is a zero sum game and also requires a distribution of resources. To grow we need to introduce more resources which are currently finite. The only way we expand our resource pool is off planet. This is another way to unite us, humans against the infinite void of space.

        1. Ewa Avatar
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          harharhar: “We pay more than anyone else on the planet for basic goods” – only a( typical arrogant) American could have said that. Your planet must be very small indeed. All the best (and a little bit more of common sense) from Poland!

  173. MacM545 . Avatar
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    Is anything stranger than people’s thoughts? If this post was great to read, then let me suggest a blog for you, where very fascinating topics and thoughts have been included, such as futurism, humor, and life insight. https://lifeinspiration762.wordpress.com/

  174. Jetstream Avatar
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    Man, this is kinda entertaining, and optimistic.

    But let’s be real here, Tim. If the world found out that something like this happened, the only thing we’d unite over is killing literally all of them.

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      you do realize in that fantasy we wouldn’t stand a chance, right?

      although i would argue both godly tiers there are not that smart if corona and asking Tim are the best things they could come up with to keep the planet healthy for them.

      1. Jetstream Avatar
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        What fantasy? That’s how we react to everything.

        1. caue Avatar
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          tim’s fantasy.

  175. BootsandPants Avatar
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    What will the tiny people do to us next when we don’t listen? It seems like no matter what happens there will always be too many people who want to bury their heads in the sand.

  176. Diego Avatar
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    i just watched a youtube video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aALZFDg0TfY&t=925s ) and it couldn’t fit better with your post 🙂

  177. David Chen Avatar
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    now you wake up and realize it was all a dream

  178. mrcpuhead Avatar
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    The “mind blown” emoji seems quite appropriate. I also had a flashback to the Animal House scene when the professor was smoking weed with the students…

  179. Meenakshi A Kamat Avatar
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    I once wrote about the tiers above ours (not this good though)…. And had mentioned about the allien attack plan to get this world team up as one 🙂 This was indeed a teleporter, enjoyed it 100,000,000 times more than the present global Coronavirus news articles 🙂

  180. Jokesis FTW Avatar
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    Mad exurb1a vibes and SSC fiction vibes

  181. Ileum Seong Avatar
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    In other words, the little people are playing god and messing with us, using catastrophic methods like Thanos, “hoping” the survivors will learn a lesson, instead of using their powers in a wiser, more direct and effective method to get their message across.

    1. David_Swedlow Avatar
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      We’ve ignored all of the wiser messages.

      1) Election shenanigans (any party, any country)

      2) Hyper-rich and hyper-poor

      3) Climate

      Don’t we all remember 1 month ago when we were trying to sleep this one off too? This is just the start. You know how if you eat 7000 calories a day and sit in front of a screen all day you will eventually die of a some terrible disease. And blaming the disease? “Hey, you should have told me we were acting foolish.” Virus: rolls eyes.

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      They didn’t vote Bernie Sandres ;^)

  182. Ben Tibbetts Avatar
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    You’re right, I didn’t believe it. 😛

    Great allegory, refreshing and useful.

  183. Ismael Abufon Avatar

    So if we assume around 20 seconds at 100x on the first tier, plus another 3 at 10,000x on the second tier

    That’s:

    2,000 + 30,000 = 32,000 1x-equivalent seconds or 533.33 minutes or 8.89 hours….

    So are you now 8 hours older than everyone else… or are you living 8hrs in the future relative to everyone else? ????

  184. Deckard B-263-54 Avatar
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    I truly hope you’re right and we finally accept we’re all on the same team.

    1. David_Swedlow Avatar
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      Re-meme change starts at home 😉

      I’m on your team. All we need to do is re-member.

  185. Seigo Osawa Avatar
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    The question is: why didn’t you ask the atomic-level people to allow you to churn out your articles in their 10,000x faster time? Or at least trained up to super-sayan 🙂

  186. Laurence Ion Avatar
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    What’s up with the Andy Kaufman reference though?

    1. Brian Guest Avatar
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      My understanding is that some people think he faked his death when he died in 1984, and he’d be the kind of person to be accepted in a lower tier world.

    2. Jetstream Avatar
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      Andy did you hear about this one? Tell me are you locked in the punch? Andy are you goofin’ on Elvis, “Hey baby?” Are we losin’ touch?

      If you belieeeeve, they put a man on the moon…

  187. Aarushi Gupta Avatar
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    This is one sweet post. I liked it but dunno why, but I was expecting something. Tim had always gone so deep into things and they way he was scaling, I believed it was going to be that way. But it certainly was good.

    1. evanlarkspur Avatar
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      Um, this WAS something.

  188. StephH Avatar
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    Easily my favorite line: “But over the last century, your world has been advancing exponentially in technology but remaining stagnant in wisdom.”

  189. [killcode3.0] Avatar
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    This is like Exurbia, but with a less depressive ending.

  190. [killcode3.0] Avatar
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    Wow, that’s an interesting story. You should tell it to your family for the next gathering, though that might not happen for a while. Small world though, my Uncle Jim had a similar thing happen to him 2003, must be fairly common.

  191. Dot Avatar
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    Thank you sincerely for this insightful & interesting read!
    Fantastic story with just a bit too much “Joss Whedon Talk” for my taste.
    Still hanging in the 90-00s, huh? Understandable, but also cringe nowadays.
    Stay safe & be well!

  192. Eyal1990 Avatar
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    I’m sorry but I can’t believe this have really happened – I can’t believe that someone would really forget his phone and keep his life as if nothing happened.

  193. JD Avatar
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    Oh Tim, you’re such an optimist

  194. lunamargherita Avatar

    OK, it’s well written and everything, but: this is a call to arms.
    I want it to be a call to arms.
    How do we get together and plan a way to create a new normal and not get back to whatever mess we had before?

    1. Akash Lobo Avatar
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      Perhaps we the readers need to incorporate this higher mindedness into our own decision making and hopefully that adds up. Difficult to convince the powers that be to do so but Tim has done a brilliant job of convincing me.

    2. Sam Randolph Avatar
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      I don’t know, maybe organize ordinary people to demand better governance and public policy? Because those currently in power are not doing a good job.

      As @akashlobo:disqus pointed out, convincing the powers that be just by asking nicely hasn’t worked so far, so we need a new strategy. If you haven’t heard about the calls for a General Strike going around on Twitter, I’d encourage you all to check it out: https://observer.com/2020/03/coronavirus-general-strike-notdying4wallstreet-american-economy/

      If you really want to get involved in fixing the sorry state of things, go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v6ufXOFfEU&t=866s

      Hope to see you out there, comrades! We’re all in this together.

  195. Dominik Plath Avatar
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    More fiction please 🙂

    1. the Business Doc Avatar
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      But it’s not nearly as unbelievable as real life these days

  196. Espen Holje Avatar
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    What a brilliant story and perspective!

    Can someone please call Daniel Kahneman? (https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kahneman). The world needs his wisdom now – thinking fast, thinking slow.

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      Watch John Vervaeke’s lecture series, “Awakening from the Meaning Crisis” free on YouTube. To get a glimpse, watch his early video “What is Wisdom” – https://youtu.be/WpVVcVRkLok

      Also short, watch his Ted Talk on NeuroEnlightenment: https://youtu.be/qKvRUfZ_u1o

      Heads up, the lecture series is a college level course in wisdom cultivation, beautiful but quite a bit to take in.

  197. Brano Beres Avatar
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    Melon Sugar

  198. Gojira11 Avatar
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    Truly on point and timely message. “We are all on one team.” Hopefully humanity will realize that we are all one interconnected iteration of consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. (Bill Hicks).

  199. Valentine Osnovyanenko Avatar
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    Great, nice seeing I’m not the only one going crazy in the self-isolation. The moving constellation told me that they created Covid-19 for the same reason. This checks out!

  200. pjwelch Avatar
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    That was fun, and funny. Very creative.

  201. Trido Avatar
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    So, the Chinese were right that it started in the US!

  202. Cory Avatar
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    This is way too cool. Awesome and such a thought provoking post. I really went in believing it was how your morning went lol. Incredible. You are so smart and I love reading your posts. This is the first thing of fiction I’ve read from you though. Too cool…

  203. Sloww Avatar
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    Good dose of size perspective. Thanks, Tim.

    One question: Do you believe we are really “alone in a dark and dangerous universe,” or was that just part of the story?

    I’m reading more and more about the possibility of a “living universe” (see Duane Elgin’s work for instance). After all, doesn’t dark energy and dark matter make up ~96% of the universe? We know and are able to perceive and sense so little (right now at least).

    So, if I may, I’d propose a revision to think about it as:

    “The first and most crucial step on the road to a long-lasting species is the epiphany that you truly are a single team, interconnected in a dark yet living universe.”

  204. Kasper Zier Avatar
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    Nice story. Took me back to Michael Crichtons ‘Micro’

    1. the Business Doc Avatar
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      Agreed. When the host explained the miniaturization I started panicking expecting a wasp. What a horrible description that was.

    2. SanFrancisco Professor Avatar
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      All indebted to the great April 1957 Donald Duck story by Carl Barks. If link fails try Donald Duck Betelgeuse. Walt Disney’s Comics and Stories #199. And there you’ll see how to illustrate a fable. https://greatestape.blogspot.com/2009/03/donalds-big-imagination-by-carl-barks.html

  205. Johannes von Ahn Avatar
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    A really thought provoking parable to say the least.

    Btw, don’t stick your finger in an electrical outlet.

  206. Lisa Cassidy Avatar
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    I totally want to be friends with you!

  207. Matt Bodman Avatar
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    I’m not sure what drugs you’re on, sir, but please tell me where you get them.

  208. Gatsby Avatar
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    Did you see Rick Moranis while you were down there?

  209. Tetiana Busel Avatar
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    What I took away for myself is that that we are part of many ecosystems whether we like it or not, understand or not. Also, tech development way surpassed our wisdom, though, we , humans, have an amazing imagination and sense of humor to deal with our problems!

  210. Ben Avatar
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    You’re right, I don’t believe your morning. Lol.

  211. T.Tes Avatar
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    When I try shrooms, I want whatever this guy had.

  212. Rowen Avatar
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    It’s the weirdest Ant-man fanfic I’ve read in my entire life

  213. Daniel Harris Avatar
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    Fab!

    (Minor quibble though: I thought SARS-COV-2 was the name of virus, and COVID-19 was the name of the disease it causes?)

    1. Tim Urban Avatar
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      Fixed!

  214. bill Avatar
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    Nice little read- Well done!

  215. Elex Avatar
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    Can I have some of whatever you’ve been snorting? Where are the good vintage posts? I mean the writing is great but this is not what I come (used to come? When you used to post?) to this site for.

  216. Bazkie Bumpercar Avatar

    Very creative! I like the “common enemy” thing; it does feel like that, doesn’t it?

  217. Jonas Thulin Avatar
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    “Your little series is cute, even if it took us forever to read—but it will have limited effect. Your world is stubborn about growing up.”

    Felt to me like a a glimpse of a new Tim, an older, wiser and sadder one.

    I’ve always liked stories of people who were passionate about finding the truth and saving the world, only to realize that, in the last analysis, it probably can’t be saved . John Gray (Straw dogs), Tolstoy and Douglas Adams come to mind. Who knows, maybe in a few years I might be able to add this new Tim to that list

    1. califrench Avatar
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      I like this but one minor thing, COVID-19 is the disease while the virus is actually named SARS-CoV-2

    2. Hen3ry Avatar
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      I like the approach of the How to Train Your Dragon books. History is a sequence of honourable defeats – two steps forward, one step back. Even if things get terrible in the short term, evil forces are just too inefficient to rule forever.

      Of course, you can say something about nuclear weapons and global warming and so on, but at a sufficient scale even these problems are just a step back. If global warming is not stopped, it will cause great suffering all over the world, but it is unlikely to kill off all humans. Perhaps it might even derail progress for centuries, but one day, it will restart.

      A nuclear war killing all humans would be worse, but there is still at least 500 million years until the Sun’s increased activity starts to disrupt life on Earth, and perhaps 500 million more until all plants die (From the amazing Timeline of the far future on Wikipedia). Maybe new intelligent life evolves in that time, goes through a way slower industrial revolution with most easily accessible fossil fuels depleted and so has more time to improve socially, rater than technologically.

      I know this does not help with our problem. But maybe it could provide some perspective, or at least an ultimately hopeful fiction.

      1. Justin L Avatar
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        I find “Well, we won’t kill all living beings on this planet” (and depending on who you’re talking to, perhaps all of life in the universe) to be not so hopeful. It’s not a question of how badly we’ll destroy the planet, but will we be awesome enough to destroy all life.Well, except for the tardigrades. God bless those little bears.

        The dinosaurs stuck around for a cool 65 million years. We’ll be immensely lucky if we make it to 300,000. I don’t expect us to survive past this century.

        1. Hen3ry Avatar
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          That comparison is unfair towards humans. Dinosaurs are a grop wider than primates, whereas humans are a single species. I’m no biologist, but I found that the average lifespan of a mammal species is around 1-5 million years. Depending on how you count humans, we’re not doing that terribly.

  218. Peter Gaber Avatar
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    Cool story, very RickandMortyesque, but served the purpose!

  219. Shmuly Lichtman Avatar
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    Love the story!! Very original 🙂 Hope our world learns the lesson though…

  220. KIC Avatar
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    Third!

  221. Courtney Liessen Avatar
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    Fantastic!!

  222. Wish Bear Avatar
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    What in the world..